topic Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape in Modeling

true line weight archicad, angle shape

Averrell — Tue, 09 May 2023 12:00:40 GMT

Salut!!

premièrement je voudrais m'excuser pour mon anglais je suis français 😅

dans un deuxième temps, j'aimerais savoir s'il existe un moyen d'avoir un "angle pointu" comme Illustrator lorsque j'utilise une épaisseur de ligne réelle? j'ajoute une capture pour expliquer ce que je veux:

Translation...

Hi!!

first I would like to apologize for my english I am french 😅

Secondly, I would like to know if there is a way to have a "sharp angle" like Illustrator when I use real lineweight? I add a capture to explain what I want:

Please post in English only to this forum.

Normally this post would be removed, but as it has been replied to already I have translated it.

Please use Google Translate (or similar) so you can post in English.

Barry - moderator.

On AC i've only rounded anglein illustrtaor i've "pointed" angle

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Ahmed_K — Wed, 25 Jan 2023 15:23:40 GMT

Helle, there is no solution fot this, it's a defaut system setting

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

cuba — Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:20:39 GMT

You can use very thin walls with zero line thickness and solid fill to draw sharp corners...

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 11:10:47 GMT

This is a very old wish that has been asked by many users in the past.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

pcrossington — Wed, 17 Apr 2024 21:18:26 GMT

Why has Archicad not fixed this? Is there a particular reason it can't be done?

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 17 Apr 2024 21:30:31 GMT

In my case I don't consider this a bug but you can make a wish so that they add a preference to choose that the corners have options like Illustrator.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:03:27 GMT

I have the same issue with the ArchiCAD dimension tool which can't give me something like this:

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Barry Kelly — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:18:22 GMT

If you were drawing with a pen or a pencil, you wouldn't have square ends.

I don't see this as a problem.

I don't think you would ever notice when you print the plans.

It is only noticeable on screen because you can zoom in so much.

Barry.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:34:00 GMT

It's a problem to meet the standards of the company. Every CD must have the same look when printing them. They are very strict on that.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Barry Kelly — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:41:25 GMT

Well, if the company can tell the difference between a round or square end on a dimension marker printed at 1:100 scale (actually the scale does not matter as the markers will be the same size no mater what scale), they have way better eyes than me and way too much time on their hands to be that picky.

Barry.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:15:42 GMT

I must comply with the company's graphic standards. In fact, these problems are basic and I shoudn't have encountered them in ArchiCAD either. This is the same case for the wall corners.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:22:36 GMT

I don't particularly like the round ends/corners either.

The thinner the pen is, the less you will notice the round ends.

Of course this does not help when you want a thick line or a thick marker on a dimension (although I don't have an issue with that).

With walls, you just need to use a thinner pen for the skin lines.

The thinner the pen, the sharper the corners will be.

If you are showing a wall at a very small scale where you might see these round corners, then use an alternate pen set for the small scale plans where the pen width is reduced.

Personally I don't worry about pens for different scales.

I use pens that roughly match the old Rotring pens - 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, & 0.5mm.

I use those for almost everything, the thinner pens for regular work and thicker pens to emphasise a bolder line where required.

I know those pens will print at 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, & 0.5mm when I publish the PDFs.

Up to about 0.5mm, I really don't think you will notice the rounded corners (unless you are viewing on screen and zooming in.

Printed output is just fine - that is what I worry about.

Barry.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

mthd — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 07:58:13 GMT

Edited: Correction my reply was for another post not this one.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

cuba — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 07:46:52 GMT

Keep in mind Archicad serves not just as a tool for architectural drafting but also for making presentations, analyses, designing urban plans, and more.

In these instances, having greater control over line styles and visual elements is crucial. I think this question comes from a different angle.

Exporting to Illustrator is possible, but it demands additional effort and involves repetitive tasks during updates.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

mthd — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:13:19 GMT

Likely this thread should be posted in the wishes part of the forum.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:29:53 GMT

There are many wishes for this already.

Here is just one...

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes/Pen-shape-different-tips-square-round-in-true-line-weight/m-p/193465

And another that mentions what I would like to see - back lining.

Or the ability to offset the line thickness to one side or the other (like wall reference lines) rather than just have the line centred.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes/Graphical-Improvements-to-lines/m-p/4406

Barry.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

hevi — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:40:53 GMT

Exactly - and in a world where delivered material predominantly is views on screen as vector graphics which encourages zooming we need to be able to be meticulous. Just look at QGIS (open source) when it comes to communicating information graphically (line/fill/colour) and compare to AC which seem to be stuck in the 90s.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:13:57 GMT

It depends on the firms. There are some leading architects and/or engineers who remain committed to their tradition and local regulations about some architectural, structural, or construction elements. No one can convince them to do things differently.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:24:08 GMT

Generally, architectural plans and construction details or drawings require us to apply the hierarchy of the pen weights. Thus, there is no other choice, but to use different pen thickness.

Re: true line weight archicad, angle shape

Martin Jules — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:29:13 GMT

These types of wishes are exactly what we really need to "collaborate" with different stakeholders from the earlier stage of any projects in the field.