topic Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee in Modeling

Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Sun, 19 May 2024 11:02:37 GMT

Very simple project, with 4 curtain walls for a small conservatory - 3 for vertical elements, the fourth one is for the roof. This last one was built in Elevation view, if that makes any difference to how it is handled by AC.

I want to move the whole construction. I select everything using the Marquee tool. The roof curtain wall element stays put. Only by direct selection using the Arrow tool can I move it. Nothing is locked, everything is in the Main Model Design Option (there are no other options on this project). Video attached.

Any tips anyone?

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

Mahmoud Qenawi — Sun, 19 May 2024 12:19:32 GMT

Hi @alexliz,

Sometimes these strange behaviors can occur when your project is far from the origin point, I see these values for the first time, are they correct?

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Sun, 19 May 2024 20:14:29 GMT

Hi Mahmoud, thanks for your comment. These coordinates are normally only shown in some contexts in 3D views.

This project is on plain millimeter dimensions and in most views you will see that everything is within just 5 meters of project zero.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

Ricardo Lopez — Mon, 20 May 2024 13:40:14 GMT

Hi @alexliz

Have you tried doing it in the roof floor plan view instead of the 3D?

Regards.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Mon, 20 May 2024 14:26:25 GMT

Hi Ricardo, thanks for posting here. Yes, I had. Nothing seems to affect this particular curtain wall. I can only move it by selecting with the Arrow Tool.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Tue, 21 May 2024 12:24:46 GMT

I have concluded that this may be a limitation (bug?) for Curtain Wall Elements which have been created in Elevation/Section View using the Polyline or Curved Geometry Method. If the CW is created using Boundary it is then included in the Drag using Marquee.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

Mahmoud Qenawi — Tue, 21 May 2024 14:33:40 GMT

If you concluded to a bug so pls send a report to the Graphisoft’s local partner to assure that it’s a bug and they may have a solution.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Tue, 21 May 2024 16:26:38 GMT

Thanks, Mahmoud. Like I said, this may be a limitation (although I haven't seen it documented anywhere thus far) so I am not certain it's a bug.

Alex

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

Barry Kelly — Wed, 22 May 2024 01:12:22 GMT

Technically, the marquee is not moving or dragging the elements.

It is stretching the nodes of the elements inside the marquee.

Because all of the nodes for the curtain walls are inside the marquee, it is effectively moving them (stretching all nodes the same distance.

With the vertical curtain walls, you will find that you can grab an end node of the reference line and simply stretch or drag that node - exactly what the marquee does.

But with the horizontal one, you will find it does not have the same stretchy nodes in plan.

That is why the marquee can not stretch (move) it.

Barry.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Wed, 22 May 2024 06:53:33 GMT

Thanks @Barry Kelly. Yes, that's what I meant earlier by 'limitation'.

Do you happen to know if this is documented at all?

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

Barry Kelly — Wed, 22 May 2024 06:57:57 GMT

I don't recall reading anything specific about it.

But I rarely use curtain walls, so I wouldn't be reading up on them often.

Barry.

Re: Curtain wall is excluded from Drag command using marquee

alexliz — Wed, 22 May 2024 11:45:29 GMT

I'm the same. Only for this small project, a conservatory extension in the UK, it looked like the tool to use.

I must say, from a user's point of view it is not very logical (although I do understand the point about there being no stretch selection nodes). In plan view you do see nodes, albeit the more faint type. And although Morphs' nodes are also a bit peculiar, they do get included in the operation based on Marquee.

Thanks for looking into this, Barry.