topic Re: General rotation function in Modeling

General rotation function

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Jun 2024 10:41:51 GMT

Is there a simple way to rotate any object/wall/slab/geometry on any axis or combination of axes? I have been assuming there was and that I just hadn't located the button yet but I'm beginning to think that is an incorrect assumption.

I know you can rotate a beam by typing in a slope. Is there any common function or button that works on any geometry to rotate the item in the x, y and z axes?

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:07:20 GMT

If I understand you correctly -- rotating an element in 3D, and not just restricted to plan? You might want to try Cigraph's ArchiRotate, which will rotate Objects. I haven't used it yet, so I can't make any recommendations, but because it's free, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try...

Re: General rotation function

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:10:04 GMT

Thanks for the lead, I'll look into that.

Re: General rotation function

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:41:44 GMT

Laura wrote:
If I understand you correctly -- rotating an element in 3D, and not just restricted to plan? You might want to try Cigraph's ArchiRotate, which will rotate Objects. I haven't used it yet, so I can't make any recommendations, but because it's free, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try...

If you do not mind paying look at
http://www.encina.co.uk/objective.html
Now a days it does that and al ot lot more.
Joseph

Re: General rotation function

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:49 GMT

Notice that Laura said Cigraph's ArchiRotate rotates objects not
AC tool elements like walls and slabs. I am not sure but I believe
this is also true of Objective.
Peter Devlin

Re: General rotation function

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:58:24 GMT

Encima Objective looks like it is only objects as well.

Is there an easy way to rotate say, a slab from flat to vertical? Or do you need to use a roof for any kind of sloped surface? The other day I drew a circle. Filled it with a slab and then tried to rotate it from horizontal to vertical. I wanted the curve in order to do an SEO.

If I had used a roof instead of a slab would that have given me the ability to rotate it 90 degrees?

Re: General rotation function

Rakela Raul — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:05:22 GMT

Is there a simple way to rotate any object/wall/slab/geometry on any axis or combination of axes?

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:08:46 GMT

Seraphim wrote:
If I had used a roof instead of a slab would that have given me the ability to rotate it 90 degrees?

I believe roofs will only rotate up to 89 degrees. You could, however, have made the "circle" slab into an Object to rotate it.

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:17:43 GMT

Select your slab, and set your 3D Projection Settings as shown...

Re: General rotation function

Rakela Raul — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:19:52 GMT

Seraphin,
you need think, what do you want to achieve and then think about the ac tool that will get you there...and make sense....if i want a vertical element, why should i use the slab tool? the wall tool would be more appropiate for that case, etc.

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:22:14 GMT

Select the slab and view it in 3D. Go to File > Libraries and Objects > Save 3D Model as ...

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:26:44 GMT

Save the object to your Project Library. Select "Object" and "Editable GDL Script" from the dialog, click OK. Insert the new object into your plan, the result is below (plan view in upper right corner).

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:27:53 GMT

Rakela wrote:
Seraphin,
you need think, what do you want to achieve and then think about the ac tool that will get you there...and make sense....if i want a vertical element, why should i use the slab tool? the wall tool would be more appropiate for that case, etc.

Rakela -- do you know an easy way to make a circular wall? I don't...

Re: General rotation function

Rakela Raul — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:44:08 GMT

Neither do I Laura, but I would SEO it with the Tube 11 shape under Special Construction object in the ac libs.

and as I see it, Seraphin just want a circular object..i would use that same object 'tube 11' with a min interior radius and would have the ability to rotate it as I wish.

you are absolutely correct regardless

Re: General rotation function

Dwight — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:47:42 GMT

This is an ongoing Archicad deficiency.

The poster correctly wants a rotation control for Archicad primitives.

It is not there.

However, various torturous workarounds exist:

For a circular disk, tilted, consider the Cylinder 11 object that has such a parameter.

For irregular elements, the makeaslabaGDLobject/ArchiRotate method is best.

And the easy way to make a circular wall is to use the complex profile aspect, drawing the wall perpendicular to its linear axis. Weak, I know.

Re: General rotation function

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:48:10 GMT

Rakela wrote:
Neither do I Laura, but I would SEO it with the Tube 11 shape under Special Construction object in the ac libs.

Of course, it definitely helps to know what Seraphin is trying to accomplish (i.e. does he/she need a circular wall, or an SEO operator?).

Re: General rotation function

Ralph Wessel — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:18:24 GMT

Seraphim wrote:
Is there a simple way to rotate any object/wall/slab/geometry on any axis or combination of axes? I have been assuming there was and that I just hadn't located the button yet but I'm beginning to think that is an incorrect assumption.
I know you can rotate a beam by typing in a slope. Is there any common function or button that works on any geometry to rotate the item in the x, y and z axes?

I see that OBJECTiVE has already been recommended to you. To clarify, it will allow you to rotate and split any GDL object in 3D and place hotspots on the 3D body for easy snapping.

It won't currently rotate any geometry, e.g. walls, because ArchiCAD doesn't support that kind of transformation. Slabs and roofs, however, can quickly be transformed into 3D objects with OBJECTiVE's profiling tools, which can be rotated, split, and bent in 3D (see attached image)

Re: General rotation function

__archiben — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:18:54 GMT

Laura wrote:
Of course, it definitely helps to know what Seraphin is trying to accomplish...

it does. but if i'm understanding you correctly you just need to incline a wall and a large round column at the same angle. use the column as an operator for a SEO and then put it on a hidden layer . . . ?

~/archiben

Re: General rotation function

__archiben — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:48:06 GMT

reverse angle with the operators off . . .

(you need to ensure that the the operator layer is assigned a different intersection number to the column or they will automatically form a junction with each other).

b

Re: General rotation function

__archiben — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:52:31 GMT

definitely a wall - you can still put windows and doors in . . .

b