topic Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation in Modeling

Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

architect — Fri, 09 Aug 2024 19:54:43 GMT

Wish - adjust a slab size width without switching to plan view.
Why - ceiling & floor section edits, cabinetry that may has 5-6 stacked slabs where it's hard to determine which is which.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Steve Jepson — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 19:22:35 GMT

I don't see all of what you are doing; but what if those Slabs were modeled as Beams or Columns ?

Perhaps it would be better to edit that in a 3D view than in a Section since the elements are Slabs ? ?

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 19:32:43 GMT

Why can't you open the Info Box and edit there instead of switching to plan?

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Steve Jepson — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 20:14:14 GMT

I think he wants of adjust the shape of his Slab, not just the thickness or location of it. ?

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:37:10 GMT

It says width so it could be to stretch it to the sides, if so then agree that the 3D window is the place to edit it neither floor plan nor section/elevation are the correct viewpoints for that workflow.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

runxel — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 22:37:28 GMT

I'd would like to disagree here. 🙂 Sometimes it's just so much easier to edit in the section view. Often enough there are pesky sitatutions where it is hard (or even impossible) to edit in plan / 3D. (just had one of them right now in a tricky roof situation).

I'd love if I could stretch those slabs sideways in sections!

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Steve Jepson — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 23:00:28 GMT

could be a different or edited post or something? I don't see the word "width". + we don't really know what he is showing us. I am assuming it's an Elevation.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Barry Kelly — Wed, 07 Aug 2024 00:49:48 GMT

@Steve Jepson wrote:

could be a different or edited post or something? I don't see the word "width". + we don't really know what he is showing us. I am assuming it's an Elevation.

"Width" is in the title of the post.

Stretching in section makes sense for a simple rectangular slab.

But what happens if there are extra nodes along that edge or it is actually curved?

It is easier to edit the shape of a slab in plan or 3D.

Barry.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

runxel — Wed, 07 Aug 2024 14:24:38 GMT

I know that this is an an ambiguous operation, or could be. But I think it would be solvable. For straight segments that would be still trivial.

Again, I'm no purist in that regard. I want to make adjustments in the best view, and often enough that is neither floor plan nor 3D.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 07 Aug 2024 15:42:19 GMT

I agree with this wish, why not? Amazing to have the ability to (stretch or move) a node or an edge of the slab element in Elev/Sec views.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

architect — Fri, 09 Aug 2024 19:56:30 GMT

I pop out my 3d window for workflow purposes, and it saves time but,
quickly adjusting ceiling, roof, and floor slabs in section
detailed cabinetry edits where it is hard to find which of the 4 slabs stacked on top of each other is the correct one to adjust.

The only? viable reason to not is extra nodes/curves, which I assume is why beams are adjustable but slabs are not, but awareness of elements we're editing is a requirement to use Archicad as a professional, so I pose the why not? question also.

(*maybe width doesn't adjust if there's extra nodes/curves?)

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 07 Aug 2024 19:09:09 GMT

Hi @architect,

you're right, we need this enhancement for element edit via all views.

But I think it's not only for the reason you have mentioned, sure you've your way of workflow which you feel comfortable while following.

At all, here's a glimpse about how to distinguish the element you want to edit in floorplan or 3D views.

1) From section view you can go to 3D view.

2) The element is selected in 3D view.

3) You can show only your desired element in 3D view.

4) You can also retrieve your whole 3D view.

5) Rather, you can select the targeted element in 2D Floorplan.

6) So, here's your element & you can edit it easily & professionally in 2D & 3D views until we can achieve that consistently in all views.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Steve Jepson — Wed, 07 Aug 2024 19:19:56 GMT

... and why stop there? Why can't all the Architectual Elements (wall, column, beam, slab, roof...) have the same functionality? And it would also be useful to also have a Super Element that has ALL of that functionality, and also includes all the functionality of Morphs and the Mesh as well.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

Barry Kelly — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 01:23:35 GMT

@architect wrote:

The only? viable reason to not is extra nodes/curves, which I assume is why beams are adjustable but slabs are not, but awareness of elements we're editing is a requirement to use Archicad as a professional, so I pose the why not? question also.

Beams and walls have a 'length' reference line which is why they can be stretched in elevation.

Slabs do not have a length reference line to stretch.

Barry.

Re: Wish - Edit slab widths in elevation

mthd — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 06:00:05 GMT

I’m sure that if it was that easy to do for the code writers they would have done it all by now.

If you could convert all your elements to have this functionality then cool. Morphs are very difficult to edit so that is not really the way to get around it.

This question is for the code writers: Why Not ?