topic Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation in Modeling

The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

scervera33 — Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:53:33 GMT

I have found in this project that the structural engineer has provided 10 different levels to organize the different floor slabs of the project. It is a complex project due to the terrain. The thing is, from an architectural perspective, I would only handle 3 levels: the ground floor, the upper floor, and the roof. However, I am unsure of the best way to define them, as for the ground floor, as seen in the section, there is no line that captures all the spaces properly. How would you resolve this?

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Christophe Fortineau — Tue, 03 Dec 2024 07:36:03 GMT

Hello @scervera33,

If it deals with the same volume > it deals with the same level.

About this project I think there are 4 levels :

-1., 0., 1. and 2.

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

scervera33 — Tue, 03 Dec 2024 21:23:57 GMT

If the project is organized this way, when arranging the views of the architectural plan, two of the volumes will not be displayed correctly, as they would obscure the last two. In this case, is there a way to organize the visualization of all four volumes in a single view?

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Christophe Fortineau — Tue, 03 Dec 2024 21:31:39 GMT

Hello @scervera33 ,

I do not think so and you are able to change the level cut plan for each view. With only one level you are able to create as level cut plan as you need.

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

jl_lt — Tue, 03 Dec 2024 23:54:27 GMT

I would make ground floor the one where the sectioned stair begins. That way you can look up or down no more than 1.5m aparently and it will display correctly.

upper floor and roof look ok. make sure slabs are in the correct level, even if your lowest upper slab is quite near to your highest ground slab.

you could also add a couple of levels but then you would have to stitch some layouts together so it displays correctly. its a little bit of a hassle at first, but once done it works really fine and gives more control (and of course, if you change your plans You would have to adjust the viewports accordingly).

Best of lucks!

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Lingwisyer — Wed, 04 Dec 2024 01:12:56 GMT

Or, for your example, you just set your GF walls to Symbolic Cut.

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Angel Berruezo — Thu, 05 Dec 2024 09:28:19 GMT

I would only do one floor. It makes sense from an architectural perspective. You can define views with different cut levels and compose them in the layouts.

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

ryejuan — Thu, 05 Dec 2024 09:53:15 GMT

This is the most tricky part in doing floor plans, Either you set stories for each levels then you need to superimpose in your layout each floor to get the desired drawing representation or I think you can try to determine which floors relate to each other then from that point you can set your floor plan cut plane levels then you need to save it into saved views. I hope I gave you some ideas you can work with, 😁

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Lingwisyer — Fri, 06 Dec 2024 01:23:15 GMT

The main issue I have had with stitching together different views is when someone wants a DWG export which now needs to be stritched back together...

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 10:35:24 GMT

Hi all,

I handle this situation as @Lingwisyer suggested, by setting some GF walls (which Bases are above the level of cutting plane, here = 1.10) to be displayed as Symbolic Cut.

- Don't forget to set those 2 structural slabs in a hidden layer while working on floor plan, you can use (Gravity to slab) to handle placing your furniture easily.

Edit: this solution is available for basic & composite walls as they can be displayed as a symbolic cut and not available for the complex profiled wall as it doesn’t have a symbolic cut display option.

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

jl_lt — Sun, 08 Dec 2024 15:00:18 GMT

i dont know about others, but ive always found it great that this kind of situations actually have many possible solutions

Re: The best way to define levels in a building with difficult changes in elevation

Botonis — Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:23:47 GMT

Creating so many stories leads to a complicated project map.

You are obviously doing this because you want to show the corresponding levels in sections and elevations.

The red levels that you you have defined looks like a logical approach.

But if you want to define more detailed stories levels in sections and elevations you only have one proper option:

https://www.indigofigs.com/story-marker/

You can create "virtual stories" and define levels based on the floor level of each building part.

Not free but once you start using it you will not be able to use the Archicad's default story level object.

It has far more settings and options.