topic Re: Floor finish in door way. in Modeling

Floor finish in door way.

Clare — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:49:10 GMT

Hi, I'm trying to run floor finish into anther in a door way. The floor finish doesn't show up. Can any one help please. I want to show the timber in the door way with transition strip to the carpet. See screen shot.

Operating system used: Mac Apple Silicon ventura 13.5

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Roderick_Anderson — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:28:08 GMT

Hi, we usually have two floor slabs to solve this and other floor finish detailing. We have a structural slab that sits a defined dimension (in our case we do 3cm) below the finished floor. The structural slab can carry throughout different areas of the project independent of the floor finish. The structural slab only is modeled in separate elements depending on its structure.

We then have a floor finish slab (in another layer, of course), which is modeled according to the floor finish of each space. This floor finish slab carries through the door openings as needed. Then, in order to solve the issue in your question:

Our walls are modeled sitting on the structural slab (again, in our case, this is -0.03m)
When modeling doors, we set the doors to be 0.03m above the base of the wall

This solves the situation in your image, since you will not see the thickness of the base of the wall, since this will be sitting below the finished floor, and since the door is raised above the base of the wall (if you want to be super-precise you can raise the door whatever thickness you determine for the finish floor slab PLUS some extra millimeters for the door to swing clear of the floor), you will see the finish floor flow seamlessly below the door.

Hope this helps.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Lingwisyer — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:44:21 GMT

If your floor finish is a Composite, it should automatically continue through the door opening. Make sure your floor layer is defined as a Finish in the composite settings.

Ling.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Clare — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:23:11 GMT

Thank you for your help once again Ling. I'm very new with working with composites. When I go into the slab settings of the floor it doesn't have the composite filed. Is there something else I need to do to convert it into a composite.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Clare — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:33:15 GMT

Thank you Rod, I'll give this a try.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

David Maudlin — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:23:34 GMT

Clare:

Change from Basic to Composite here:

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:25:51 GMT

Hi @Clare,

For the case you presented, I can't remember how it was being solved before.

For now, there's a workaround is to create an opening around the door and extend lower the door till the structural slab, that simulates the real construction workflow.

Sure, you have to edit the opening when editing the door, I know it's not a solution, see the attached Screenshots, I hope that temporarily helps.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Clare — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:09:02 GMT

Thank you for your help. Making it a composite did the trick.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:26:54 GMT

Yeah, Thanks @Clare, it really did just if you don't like to use a border, but if you prefer to use border, I think a complex profile wall will be the appropriate solution while using SEO to subtract it from the original wall.

* BTW, I think you should choose the @Lingwisyer reply as a solution.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Steve Jepson — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 15:17:23 GMT

Thats a good question. Several ways to do that. I like to provide a flooring transition detail for every situation in the project.

What it takes to generate all those Details could certainly be more efficient if Door objects had more functionality.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Mahmoud Qenawi — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 15:22:44 GMT

Sure, we all hope for that.

Even tried to solve it by the threshold option in the door settings but couldn’t achieve it.

Re: Floor finish in door way.

Steve Jepson — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 16:19:55 GMT

Personally, I just model the flooring as slabs. Pretty easy to place. Spacebar -Click, adjust nodes at the door. I like most of the flooring transition to be centered below the door panel. Perhaps it's one of those things that is faster to model than configure some object for? Also, I think there is still some room for Xref's for common/standard details like Flooring Transition Details that can save a lot of time for the documentation part of it.