topic Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors in Modeling

Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

MJScheltema — Tue, 20 May 2025 04:17:38 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I am trying to model doors into a project.

Here is an example of the door typology:

I have attempted to use the OOTB doors, Cadimage and the Curtain wall tool. Has anyone had success with this door type?

I am working on this project in AC27 currently.

Operating system used: Windows 11

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Lingwisyer — Tue, 20 May 2025 06:45:33 GMT

Free leaf single track? I would just use a sliding folding door and just specify it as such... Though I do not see why you would not just use a bifold door; less fingerprints, easier operation, better weather proofing...

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

CosminF — Fri, 23 May 2025 17:58:59 GMT

Hi,

If I understood correctly would something like this work for you?

I downloaded it from here: https://www.bimobject.com/en/marvin-windows-and-doors/product/marvin_mnmss-biparting

Or this one (which apparently loads as an object, not door): https://www.bimobject.com/en/aluprof/product/MB-openslide-sextuple-sliding-door

Or you can browse bimobject for something else (be sure to filter the file type by Archicad).

Hope this helps.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

MJScheltema — Tue, 20 May 2025 06:48:07 GMT

Thanks for the reply, mate. In this instance, the client lives on a canal and has explicitly requested this type of glazing. What you have suggested is my backup plan, but I also need to make some renders.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Lingwisyer — Tue, 20 May 2025 07:04:08 GMT

I would manually model the panels for a render unless you can find a movable wall object that has custom leafs. There are a couple of movable wall objects around, but I do not know of any that do not have a solid leaf...

Client requests... hopefully they do not come back to you complaining after they find out how annoying it is to operate moveable walls, especially one that will show of their greasy hands...

Ling.

ps. Actually, you might be able to SEO a shorter one out of a taller one to get the glazing, if you can find one with an offset pivot.

ootb Movable Wall. No toggle for the track, but the object script is editable, and pretty short, so you could edit it to offset / remove the track and divide the panels if you are that way inclined.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

scottjm — Tue, 20 May 2025 07:17:03 GMT

Hey Mate,

Long time!

You might be able to fake something with CI D&W by actually nominating multiple swing leaves.

And then set the Reveal to Wall dimension as something to fake the leaves as centre stacking.

It'll look whack in floorplan though.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

ryejuan — Tue, 20 May 2025 09:37:19 GMT

Have you tried library part maker?

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

mthd — Wed, 21 May 2025 02:43:57 GMT

Interesting multiple pivot glass external door design ! I wonder how they seal up where the glass meets the glass vertically ? A rubber seal or some other ingenious method ? Would be good to see a detail of it if all possible ?

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Barry Kelly — Wed, 21 May 2025 03:45:32 GMT

Weather proofing is probably not all that important if it is only used as a screen on an otherwise open patio or alfresco area.

Barry.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

mthd — Wed, 21 May 2025 03:55:47 GMT

Yeah true ! But then again you might get a client who wants a similar opening system from the internal living area onto the exterior Alfresco or Patio area too.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Lingwisyer — Wed, 21 May 2025 05:51:14 GMT

Hopefully you have a 1.5-2m overhang in that case!

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

mthd — Wed, 21 May 2025 07:42:07 GMT

BCA ? For security someone could wedge a screwdriver into the butt joint. If it was a glass tongue and groove joint it would probably crack. If it was a recessed joint it could also crack. Would be better with a full frame in that type of application. As an external screen it would be all good as @Barry Kelly says. Fun discussing it lol😆.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Lingwisyer — Wed, 21 May 2025 08:14:27 GMT

Looks like a plastic gasket seal, though given how it operates I doubt you would be able to get much pressure on it to form a good seal, ignoring the fact that it termintates at the panel frame. Regarding security, you could probably get glass thick enough to thwart that sort of attack, but the weight and price of that would be insane...

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

mthd — Wed, 21 May 2025 08:21:17 GMT

looks like some sort of a seal from that picture above. Would be good to see a detail of the join.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

B_Migito — Wed, 21 May 2025 09:11:00 GMT

https://www.clearedgeglass.com.au/how-it-works/

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

ryejuan — Wed, 21 May 2025 09:29:08 GMT

just wondering maybe you can ask the supplier to provide you a library part of their frameless glass door system?

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

mthd — Wed, 21 May 2025 09:34:12 GMT

Maybe someone who is a master at GDL could offer their services to that company to build them for our library ?

BTW they are not really “Frameless” only the vertical parts are missing.

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

ryejuan — Wed, 21 May 2025 09:39:04 GMT

yeah, not frameless but that's what they advertised in their website. 😁

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Yves — Wed, 21 May 2025 10:43:28 GMT

With curtain wall 😉

Re: Sliding Stacking Frameless Doors

Lingwisyer — Thu, 22 May 2025 01:23:21 GMT

Australian company, and it's cyclonic rated. I am even more curious to how it seals now.