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How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side faces?

Noody — Wed, 02 Jul 2025 03:09:54 GMT

Hi,

I have a problem in Archicad where I'm unable to make the bottom and top wall finishes wrap evenly over the door side faces, the same way they do on the front face of the wall.
I've attached some screenshots of the wall and its modifiers for reference.

The wall is composed (from inside to outside) of the following layers:
Gypsum Plaster, Brick, and then at the bottom: Membrane – Rainproof and Hard Styrofoam, while at the top: Soft Styrofoam and Plaster.

All materials can have their height and width adjusted, except for the Brick and the Rainproof Membrane.

As I mentioned earlier, when I place a door into that wall, the side fill around the door doesn't look as it should. I tried to mark on the image how it's supposed to appear.
Also, I noticed that when I set the Hard Styrofoam width to 0, the Rainproof Membrane takes its place in the fill (shown in the image).

What could be causing this issue, and how can I solve it?

Operating system used: Windows

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Jul 2025 03:23:05 GMT

Unfortunately the door/window will only show one material to the side.

It can not show multiple materials.

You will either have to script your own doors and windows (can be done, but I wouldn't do it unless you have your own door and window objects as I do).

Or you have to place a thin column or morph inside the edge of the door window.

See this post for ideas ...

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/How-to-make-two-different-finishes-from-the-complex-profile-wall/m-p/369520

Barry.

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Lingwisyer — Wed, 02 Jul 2025 06:16:51 GMT

I think I used a Window Niche to faux it previously since you can assign an independant Surface to the niche. Obviously this requires manual setup,

Ling.

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Wed, 02 Jul 2025 22:10:45 GMT

I tried using code. I duplicated the Archicad window and made it "my own". I inserted parameters in the window and added code, but it's not working out so well so far. It places a niche somewhere else. Is there any possible way you could help me with this? Or, if not, could you please send me a simple window that utilizes that niche for complex walls? Im new to Archicad and it helps me build everything faster, but there is a strange rule in my country where a house has to have that bottom height with f.e. 5cm strong Styrofoam and above it a soft one. As shown in the images I placed in this article.

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Wed, 02 Jul 2025 22:13:26 GMT

Do you mean by copying their WIndow Niche and manipulate it via code?

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 00:42:01 GMT

Quick update, i managed to make what i want. So basically, with running through some articles and using help from ChatGPT, i managed to make it. I added a small thickness on the side so it goes over the wall complex and made four parameters for fill surface. In the code, i can change the thickness and depth of all 6 strips i have. Why 6? On the bottom of the left and right strip, I have different depths on the same strip side, so i need to have a chance to change the height and depth of it. The image attached is showing what i wanted. If any "problems" or issues could occur with this, i would be glad to hear it.

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Barry Kelly — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 00:50:03 GMT

I have added the split wallniche to the simple window opening.

Zip file is attached for that object (it is actually version 22 so most people can use it).

It is only the outside reveal that is split.

Barry.

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:53:32 GMT

This is the code i've been using. Notice for someone who is still new to all of this as me. For the object, you need to add 4 parameters and assign them Type as Surface and pick the paint you want to have for it. Also, you could use 2 more if you need for the bottom ones on the side, but dont forget to change the name variable in the code.

! Window parameters |CHANGE ONLY IF YOU NEED CUSTOM WIDTH AND HEIGHT" !a = 0.60 ! width (m) !b = 0.60 ! height (m) ! Frame thickness and depths for different parts frame_thick = 0.010 ! 1 cm thickness of frame strips frame_depth_left_bottom = 0.095 frame_depth_left_top = 0.165 frame_depth_right_bottom = 0.095 frame_depth_right_top = 0.165 frame_depth_top = 0.165 frame_depth_bottom = 0.095 ! Define wall thickness (add this at the top) wall_thick = 0.05 ! example wall thickness ! Define segment height early segment_height = 0.045 ! 4.5 cm bottom segment ! LEFT vertical strip – bottom part material mat_frame_bottom add (a*0.5 - frame_thick), 0, wall_thick block frame_thick, segment_height, frame_depth_left_bottom del 1 ! LEFT vertical strip – top part material mat_frame_left add (a*0.5 - frame_thick), segment_height, wall_thick block frame_thick, b - segment_height, frame_depth_left_top del 1 ! RIGHT vertical strip – bottom part material mat_frame_bottom add -(a*0.5), 0, wall_thick block frame_thick, segment_height, frame_depth_right_bottom del 1 ! RIGHT vertical strip – top part material mat_frame_right add -(a*0.5), segment_height, wall_thick block frame_thick, b - segment_height, frame_depth_right_top del 1 ! Calculate left edge X coordinate for horizontal strips left_edge_x = -(a/2 - frame_thick) ! Calculate width to cover full window minus both frame thicknesses strip_width = a - 2*frame_thick ! TOP horizontal strip material mat_frame_top add left_edge_x, b - frame_thick, wall_thick block strip_width, frame_thick, frame_depth_top del 1 ! BOTTOM horizontal strip material mat_frame_bottom add left_edge_x, 0, wall_thick block strip_width, frame_thick, frame_depth_bottom del 1

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 01:48:38 GMT

Thanks a lot!

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

cuba — Fri, 04 Jul 2025 12:14:08 GMT

Another workaround: add an empty opening (and make it slightly wider 1mm), the sill of the opening must start just above the plint to keep the material

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

Noody — Fri, 04 Jul 2025 22:41:35 GMT

But also, whenever i want to change the size of the door or door sill height, i also need to make a new empty opening in order to achieve that?

Re: How to put two different finishes from the complex profile wall warp the door and window side fa

cuba — Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:13:04 GMT

You can adjust the empty opening no need to place another.

This is also something you want to do in the final stage not in the design stage.