topic Re: "Save Template" option in Registers in Modeling

"Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:08:09 GMT

I have discovered something interesting in registers.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Graphisoft\ArchiCAD\ArchiCAD 9.0.0 INT R1\Navigator

Save Template = 0 (Default Value)

If I set "Save Template = 1" and Run AC9 then new "Save Template" option in navigator appears(see attached image).

clicking on this function brings dialog that says, that "PNTemplate.bin"is saved.

Saving in Navigator stored info as template file to import in other projects was/is my wish.
Now I'm interested to know is there any way to use this "PNTemplate.bin" file?
Anyone has experienced this extra option?

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:48:04 GMT

Do a forum search for more info. Link reported the use of these settings some time ago. 😉

Karl

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:45:58 GMT

Karl wrote:
Do a forum search for more info. Link reported the use of these settings some time ago. 😉

You mean this one from user Link? :
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=11458&highlight=save+template#11458

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:31:39 GMT

Another link:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=12509&highlight=save+template+file#12509

and now I have some answers!
Thank's Karl for advise to search in forum!

So how PNTemplate.bin works with AC9:
1. In Registers: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Graphisoft\ArchiCAD\ArchiCAD 9.0.0 INT R1\Navigator
set value for "Save Template" to 1 (value=1)
2. An extra fly-out 'Save Template File' in View Editor comes out at next StartUp of ArchiCAD.
3. Open any .pln (maybe also .pla .mod, .2dl, .tpl etc) file wich "View Sets" you want to store as template.
4. Use 'Save Template File' option in Navigator.
5. Now if you create new file using "New & Reset" option you will find all stored "View Sets"(only folder and subfolders, not saved views).

I advise to create PNTemplate.bin files from your Template files.

The same can be done for PM9.

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:54:39 GMT

It's also possible to change extension of PNTemplate.bin file to *.pln .
This will create new file, as it was created via "New & Reset" from File Menu.

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:28:45 GMT

User Link asks me via PM:

Are you absolutely sure you can rename a bin? As far as I remember they are only a few kb's and therefore I thought they couldn;t be renamed.

Yes,
it is possible to rename PNTemplate.bin file to PNTemplate.pln

File Size of PNTemplate.bin by me currently is 47 kb

After renaming, opening in AC9 and saving blank file, file size was increased up to 948 kb.

It just works well!

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

__archiben — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:03:33 GMT

Z.Bauer wrote:
Yes,
it is possible to rename PNTemplate.bin file to PNTemplate.pln

not on a mac it isn't....... see attached screenshot.

(for mac users wanting to create the template file in the first place, you need to find the same "Save Template" value under the "Navigator" group in the archiCAD 9 plist file:

~/Library/Preferences/com.graphisoft.AC 9.0.0 INT v1.plist

it can be opened with Apple's 'Property List Editor' (installed as a part of the developer tools), or any XML text editor if you know what you're doing . . . )

~/archiben

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:42:01 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
not on a mac it isn't... ~/archiben

Ben I'm not mac user and have no Idea what's going on macs!
So just thank's for extra info!

Ben are .plist files something special for macs or I can find them also for windows version of AC9?

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

__archiben — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:08:22 GMT

Z.Bauer wrote:
Ben are .plist files something special for macs or I can find them also for windows version of AC9?

they're XML based preference files that store an application's settings - both visible to the user from the settings/preferences dialogue and 'invisible' internal settings. i would imagine they're akin to your registry files. i doubt you'll find them on a PC . . .

~/archiben

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:11:11 GMT

Ben I have found no .plist file in my PC. ALso have searched in registers. There are several application's ".plist"s, but they have nothing common with Graphisoft, they are Microsoft's registers.
Can you attach some screen shots from your Mac relative to our talking subject. Maybe this can help me to understand ".plist"s better!

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

__archiben — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:40:35 GMT

Z.Bauer wrote:
Can you attach some screen shots from your Mac relative to our talking subject. Maybe this can help me to understand ".plist"s better!

as i said, i doubt that you'll find similar plist files on a PC - maybe karl or somebody in the know can weigh in on that . . . .

here's some macdev centre information. and a screenshot of the archiCAD plist file i was talking about above . . .

~/archiben

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:36:04 GMT

Ok Plist Editor in Mac is program like Registry Editor in Windows. And *.plist files in windows called *.reg .

Thank's for screenshot!

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

TomWaltz — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:58:59 GMT

Z.Bauer wrote:
Ok Plist Editor in Mac is program like Registry Editor in Windows. And *.plist files in windows called *.reg .

Thank's for screenshot!

well.... kind of. The Mac has dozens or hundres of .plist files. They are not all one big file like the Windows Registry is.

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Link — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:40:26 GMT

User Link asks me via PM:
Quote:
Are you absolutely sure you can rename a bin? As far as I remember they are only a few kb's and therefore I thought they couldn;t be renamed.

Hey I was just giving you a chance to correct your findings. I still think it's odd. It just doesn't sound right that an ArchiCAD file could be 47kb. Even the most srtripped down file would be about 10 times that size.

And when you open this converted file, are you seeing the name of the file in the titlebar or is it just called untitled?

It just doesn't seem right to me mate!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:13:59 GMT

Link wrote:
Hey I was just giving you a chance to correct your findings. I still think it's odd. It just doesn't sound right that an ArchiCAD file could be 47kb. Even the most srtripped down file would be about 10 times that size...

Hi Link,
thank's for chance , but I all is correct!
You are right blank AC file is more than 47kb! Look at my post again, please! I have wrote 47kb for renamed file, but for saved. Saved *.PLN is more than 900 kb After renaming(means changing extension from .bin to .PLN) and opening file in the titlebar file name is called of itself as Untitled

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Link — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:25:25 GMT

WellI reckon you're performing mini miracles over there in that wonderful country of yours mate.

I just ran a test and my file stayed at a measely 28Kb when I renamed it to ICantBelieveImDoingThis.pln (in the OS) and even though it appeared to open, it just went back to an Untitled.pln, so it obviously didn't open.

Furthermore, the untitled.pln had the same settings as the previous file I was in and when I saved it, it weighed in at a predictable 460Kb.

Maybe it's the US version, but I really wouldn't think so. I guess stranger things have happened.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: "Save Template" option in Registers

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:50:21 GMT

I use AC9-INT, not US version.

It's something interesting with Macs. The Mac are working more efective and faster, they have several magic functions, they are very good designed, but conflicts between MacOS and AC are more than between OS_Win and AC. I would say more. The mac problems are graver than wins at least so it's wrote in WEB.