topic Re: Slab Accessory - Footing in Modeling

Slab Accessory - Footing

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:19:10 GMT

Rick, wrote:
I'm an archicad software user, i have a question for you regarding the Slab Accessory - Under Footing Settings..
I want to find the way to stretch the footing size, i did explode it, but it didn't work please tell me if there is another way to resize the footing...i was ungrouping the Object to stretch out the Object, but i couldnt do it...Please let me know how to re-adjust it.

First ... since this is my second PM in two days from new forum users with theretofore zero posts: I don't get paid to do this. So, please post your question on a forum addressed to the world at large. If you post directly as a PM to me, I'll assume you want to hire me as a consultant (I am a hired gun - I do not work for Graphisoft) and will need to bill you up front. 😉

Rick,

The slab accessories, like all accessories, are applied by selecting the element first (the slab), then the accessory. The accessory will then morph itself to match the slab (or wall, for wall acc'y, etc.).

The Footing object is not hot stretchable. All parameters are set within the object settings dialog (see screenshot). You can adjust stem wall thickness and height, footing thickness and height, plate dimensions, etc.

The names of the parameters are a unfortunate. The screenshot shows the SE library version. What they call 'footing height' is what we call 'footing depth'. What they call 'thickness' is what we call 'footing width'. (Ditto stem wall dimensions.) Slowly, GS is customizing the US library to better user US terminology ... but looks like none of us reported this one.

If you explode any AC element - object or otherwise - it turns into 2D lines and fills. It will no longer be 3D. This has uses at times, but is not what you want here.

You cannot ungroup an AC object into subcomponents either. An object is an element. You can only alter its appearance via parameters (or solid element operations when necessity calls).

Hope that helps ... post any more questions to this thread. 😉

Regards,
Karl

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Petros Ioannou — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:45:49 GMT

Karl wrote:
First ... since this is my second PM in two days from new forum users with theretofore zero posts: I don't get paid to do this. So, please post your question on a forum addressed to the world at large. If you post directly as a PM to me, I'll assume you want to hire me as a consultant (I am a hired gun - I do not work for Graphisoft) and will need to bill you up front. 😉

Well this is what you get for talking too much!
After all don't forget you are the winner!
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=6612&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

cheers

Petros

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Aussie John — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:00:48 GMT

Obviously someone panicking as I got the same PM

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

__archiben — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:10:14 GMT

yep - me too - although karl beat me to the response

cheers
~/archiben

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Djordje — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:13:56 GMT

You too?

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

TomWaltz — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:21:50 GMT

I got one too.... I guess we're just popular!

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

TomWaltz — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:33:04 GMT

Karl wrote:
First ... since this is my second PM in two days from new forum users with theretofore zero posts: I don't get paid to do this. So, please post your question on a forum addressed to the world at large. If you post directly as a PM to me, I'll assume you want to hire me as a consultant (I am a hired gun - I do not work for Graphisoft) and will need to bill you up front. 😉

Karl,

you are even catching up with Matthew & Dwight on number of posts!

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:00:52 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Karl,

you are even catching up with Matthew & Dwight on number of posts!

[Gratuitous extra post!]

Now that I know that Rick contacted all of you guys, I don't feel 'special' anymore. (But, to Rick: I did not use your user-id, so if you post more questions in the future, nobody will know who you are. You'll find that if you post to a forum, that SOMEBODY will answer almost as quickly as you could have sent that many PM messages. Somebody in some time zone is awake and on a break. 😉 Welcome to the forum.)

Karl

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:19:35 GMT

Karl wrote:
...
(But, to Rick: I did not use your user-id, so if you post more questions in the future, nobody will know who you are .... Karl

That is only the nobodies that were not "special" enough to be selected to the PM group.

Nobody, Jay (No were near Top Postings, no matter what is counted)

[EDIT: Actually I see that I am Firmly in the Top 10 for Total Attachments. This is because typing is a not a strong-suit for me. And I "are" an engineer. Pictures are worht 10,000 words.]

See how I "recycled" this post.... Now I should have just made a reply post in order to add to my total. Well, now all I am doing i s a d d i n g t o m y w o r d c o u n t .

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

James Murray — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:24:29 GMT

The other reason for a public forum, besides improving your chances of getting an answer, is that by asking you might help someone else with the same problem. Not that you shouldn't hire Karl.

Apparently just below some specialness threshold,

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:33:47 GMT

Hi James, did you see my edit.

(Just wanted to get the total post count back were it truely belonged)

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:50:27 GMT

Jay wrote:
That is only the nobodies that were not "special" enough to be selected to the PM group.

James wrote:
Apparently just below some specialness threshold,

He just didn't realize that you are two of the smartest guys here!

And, yeah, when I said 'nobody', I assumed that the others who got a PM had deleted it from their inbox and were as senile as me. But, the rest of the guys are young and bright like you two and no doubt still have memories. 😉 So... we'll make that 'almost nobody'.

Karl

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Link — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:08:56 GMT

Apparently just below some specialness threshold,

I feel your pain brother, but quality is better than quantity right?

It's a great community - I am just happy to be a part of it!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Rick Thompson — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:28:50 GMT

Sorry to be off topic (re. the number of post by the upper elite key peckers), and I am not worthy with my sub 200 post, but I don't use the accessory for footings.

I use a simple one piece composite, actually several of them... 18", 24" 30" 36" whatever. You then can attach a property object to those collecting the yards of concrete and the amount of rebar. You can pre-set the actual footing depth at 10", 12" etc with your template and/or favorite pallet. Drawing is simple, it's a wall.. so it will stretch if needed along with the wall(s) above.

(what am I now...nearing 200?:)

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

TomWaltz — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:32:18 GMT

Rick wrote:
I use a simple one piece composite, actually several of them... 18", 24" 30" 36" whatever. You then can attach a property object to those collecting the yards of concrete and the amount of rebar. You can pre-set the actual footing depth at 10", 12" etc with your template and/or favorite pallet. Drawing is simple, it's a wall.. so it will stretch if needed along with the wall(s) above.

I have to agree with Rick. Using composite walls is a much easier way than fighting with the accessory a lot of the time.

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:01:31 GMT

Ditto. I never use the footing accessory. I always use composite walls (with reference line offset) for continuous footings and columns for isolated footings.

Karl

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

KeesW — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:13:11 GMT

I think that the more tricky footing is the one with sloping sides. Until solid modeling came along, was this was best done with the roof tool? I've used the solid modeller and it is a bit tedious, but OK. Are there easier methods?

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Aussie John — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:51:25 GMT

I ended up making a special library part that shows the beam/slope setdown and the section of the wall that sits in the edge rebate.
the good thing is iwth a few editable hotspot you can change the size while in section

Re: Slab Accessory - Footing

TomWaltz — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:58:58 GMT

KeesW wrote:
I think that the more tricky footing is the one with sloping sides. Until solid modeling came along, was this was best done with the roof tool? I've used the solid modeller and it is a bit tedious, but OK. Are there easier methods?

I've found the roof tool to be amazing for thickened slabs and haunches on foundations. I especially like it since it does not require SEO to work, so it takes less steps to perform.