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    <title>topic Betreff: Wall edge is not showing up in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710514#M180069</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is actually a deeper running problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've logged a bug for something that happens even more often than your example, Stefan.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-renderer-start-pos="72"&gt;On “T-Sections”, where e.g. a slab and two walls meet (the upper wall starts at the top of the slab) no line will be displayed either:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104289i731A1AB3C38E5259/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" alt="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Happens in both PBR and in (formerly known as) OpenGL.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Interestingly enough in the internal engine everything works as intended:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104290i681AC85B09B3B442/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" alt="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's not new in AC30 tho. This has been grinding my gears since... forever? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:02:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>runxel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-07-31T16:02:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710444#M180061</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can someone help me with this, the edge at the intersection between the walls and column is not showing. This happens at various parts of my model. I attached the plan and 3d view for referenece. TIA&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="1.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104261i2FB4F0E40C1FD97E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="1.jpg" alt="1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="2.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104262i7B799FC9405DE58B/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="2.jpg" alt="2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" color="grey"&gt;Operating system used: &lt;EM&gt;Windows &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 05:41:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710444#M180061</guid>
      <dc:creator>Superswabey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T05:41:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710450#M180063</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The side of the wall and column are perfectly in the same plane.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As they have the same surface material, the joining line will be eliminated automatically.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Actually it seems just turning off the edge surface override for just the column is enough to get the joining line back.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Even the the walls and column still have the same surface material.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_0-1785478955738.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104266i2F23EB05A87206AD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="BarryKelly_0-1785478955738.png" alt="BarryKelly_0-1785478955738.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 06:24:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710450#M180063</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T06:24:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710451#M180064</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you. So it is not possible to have a "clean" joining if i want the surfaces to be the same.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 07:04:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710451#M180064</guid>
      <dc:creator>Superswabey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T07:04:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710454#M180065</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If surfaces are co-planer and they are the same surface material, then the join between then will disappear automatically.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That is why I was bit surprised that simply overriding the column edge surface, with the same surface material, made the join show.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But if you override the edge surface of both the wall and the column with the same surface, the join disappears again as it should.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It seems columns and walls behave a little strangely.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_0-1785482779257.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104267iEED38D6CF5DF1A25/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="BarryKelly_0-1785482779257.png" alt="BarryKelly_0-1785482779257.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It is quite common to duplicate a surface material but give it a different name.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In my case it would be "paint wall 1" and "pant wall 2".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both exactly the same surface material in appearance, but as they are separate attributes, Archicad considers them as different materials, and the joins between them will always show.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That is not what I have shown here though, all surfaces are exactly the same attribute.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 07:30:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710454#M180065</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T07:30:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710455#M180066</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I see now. Thank you for the clear explanation!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 07:36:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710455#M180066</guid>
      <dc:creator>Superswabey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T07:36:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710496#M180068</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I feel obliged to point out that - in this situation - Archicad doesn't work as it should.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The edge does not disappear because someone (Graphisoft or we users) &lt;EM&gt;wants&lt;/EM&gt; it to disappear, but it happens nonetheless.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry's finding is interesting although I can't reproduce it...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7331"&gt;@Barry Kelly&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; schrieb:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;... simply overriding the column edge surface, with the same surface material, made the join show.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'd suspect that ACs "show/hide edge algorithm" is forced to check the edges in a different order.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My personal gym &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":nerd_face:"&gt;🤓&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="StefanL__0-1785502651764.png" style="width: 800px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104282i7BA0A5D038C9638D/image-dimensions/800x564?v=v2" width="800" height="564" role="button" title="StefanL__0-1785502651764.png" alt="StefanL__0-1785502651764.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;AC27, left and right are mirrored, otherwise identical, selected elements on the right to show hidden edges.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only one surface material, only one building material, no error possible (green arrows).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Red wall has a lower junction order than green wall.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; green is protruding and has no edge to show; red has an edge to show (pink arrows).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Top columns (orange outline) have their surface overwritten with the same and one and only existing surface material.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt; top column right is last selected element and shown in info bar&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Bottom columns (pink outline) have their surface by BM.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No edge for...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2026 19:02:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710496#M180068</guid>
      <dc:creator>Stefan L_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-08-01T19:02:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Wall edge is not showing up</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710514#M180069</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is actually a deeper running problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've logged a bug for something that happens even more often than your example, Stefan.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-renderer-start-pos="72"&gt;On “T-Sections”, where e.g. a slab and two walls meet (the upper wall starts at the top of the slab) no line will be displayed either:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104289i731A1AB3C38E5259/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" alt="runxel_0-1785513620031.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Happens in both PBR and in (formerly known as) OpenGL.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Interestingly enough in the internal engine everything works as intended:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/104290i681AC85B09B3B442/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" alt="runxel_1-1785513646636.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's not new in AC30 tho. This has been grinding my gears since... forever? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:02:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Wall-edge-is-not-showing-up/m-p/710514#M180069</guid>
      <dc:creator>runxel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-31T16:02:33Z</dc:date>
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