topic Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy' in Modeling

To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:56:25 GMT

All of the staff (15) in our office have a problem intermittantly when using the drag command. Archicad decides that we want to use the 'drag a copy' command instead. And it takes a bit of fiddling around to get rid of it, ie not just hitting the CTRL key, but Escaping out of the the command completely and re-starting it.

I wish this would not happen.

Roolio

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:18 GMT

Are your alt keys sticky?

Never seen this myself.

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

TomWaltz — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:52:50 GMT

Roolio wrote:
All of the staff (15) in our office have a problem intermittantly when using the drag command. Archicad decides that we want to use the 'drag a copy' command instead. And it takes a bit of fiddling around to get rid of it, ie not just hitting the CTRL key, but Escaping out of the the command completely and re-starting it.

I wish this would not happen.

Roolio

If in the middle of a Drag command you hit "Alt" or "Ctrl-Alt", Drag turns into Drag a Copy or Drag Multiple Copies.

You can tell by the small "+" or "++" by the cursor. Pressing Alt or Ctrl-Alt toggles this on and off.

Our office found it so useful, no on actually uses the "Drag a copy" command any more.

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:39:32 GMT

yes, the drag and drop is a great feature

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:55:18 GMT

Tom wrote:
If in the middle of a Drag command you hit "Alt" or "Ctrl-Alt", Drag turns into Drag a Copy or Drag Multiple Copies.

Tom

It's actually "Ctrl" or "Ctrl-Alt" isn't it, but that doesn't seem to be the problem Roolio is having. As I read it, "drag a copy" is occurring when not wanted (or invoked) and can't be un-invoked (i.e. hitting "Ctrl" again to get back to simple Drag command).

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

TomWaltz — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:03:14 GMT

s2art wrote:
Tom wrote:
If in the middle of a Drag command you hit "Alt" or "Ctrl-Alt", Drag turns into Drag a Copy or Drag Multiple Copies.
Tom

It's actually "Ctrl" or "Ctrl-Alt" isn't it, but that doesn't seem to be the problem Roolio is having. As I read it, "drag a copy" is occurring when not wanted (or invoked) and can't be un-invoked (i.e. hitting "Ctrl" again to get back to simple Drag command).

OH!!! I'm sorry, I totally misread that!

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Link — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:14:00 GMT

That's right and if for example, you use ctrl+' to fit in window during your drag, that ctrl will ~inadvertently~ make a copy.

Keep in mind that the ctrl and ctrl+alt modifiers are toggles, so hitting them again will disable them.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

__archiben — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:32:30 GMT

Link wrote:
That's right and if for example, you use ctrl+' to fit in window during your drag, that ctrl will ~inadvertently~ make a copy.

and it drives me nuts

s2art wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
If in the middle of a Drag command you hit "Alt" or "Ctrl-Alt", Drag turns into Drag a Copy or Drag Multiple Copies.
It's actually "Ctrl" or "Ctrl-Alt" isn't it, ...

not on a mac it's not !

cheers
~/archiben

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:53:49 GMT

I also like using the 'Alt' or 'Option-Alt' (on a MAC) to drag a copy or multiple copies, because it works equally well with MIRROR and ROTATE.

BUT (and it's a big BUT), in Plotmaker I always move things out of position when I meant to copy them, because the the 'Alt' and 'Option-Alt' don't work!

Anybody else suffer from this?

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Achille Pavlidis — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:17:55 GMT

Keith wrote:
I also like using the 'Alt' or 'Option-Alt' (on a MAC) to drag a copy or multiple copies, because it works equally well with MIRROR and ROTATE.

BUT (and it's a big BUT), in Plotmaker I always move things out of position when I meant to copy them, because the the 'Alt' and 'Option-Alt' don't work!

Anybody else suffer from this?

i think you can only use the "drag a copy" command in PM, not the multiple copies drag...

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

TomWaltz — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:28:46 GMT

Achille wrote:
Keith wrote:
I also like using the 'Alt' or 'Option-Alt' (on a MAC) to drag a copy or multiple copies, because it works equally well with MIRROR and ROTATE.

BUT (and it's a big BUT), in Plotmaker I always move things out of position when I meant to copy them, because the the 'Alt' and 'Option-Alt' don't work!

Anybody else suffer from this?

i think you can only use the "drag a copy" command in PM, not the multiple copies drag...

Ah yes, the old "Archicad and Plotmaker should act the same but don't" problem..... also one of my favorites!

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:40:59 GMT

~/archiben wrote:

s2art wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
If in the middle of a Drag command you hit "Alt" or "Ctrl-Alt", Drag turns into Drag a Copy or Drag Multiple Copies.
It's actually "Ctrl" or "Ctrl-Alt" isn't it, ...
not on a mac it's not !

cheers
~/archiben

I was not aware of that, humble appologies.

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 04:27:40 GMT

Yes I got that (Ctrl Alt) the wrong way round. Alas this problem still plagues many of us, and the only way round it is to hit the Ctrl + Alt then Ctrl + Alt again to cancel out.

It is annoying.

Also, I like selecting items then using the keys cause if you miss the elements you have selected, you lose the selection but if you miss the items after using the keystrokes you still retain the selection.

and

if you want to move/copy using a relative point you cannot do it using the 'drag with the pointer then Ctrl or Alt method'.

Raoul

So when is it getting fixed then?

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:12:10 GMT

If you have mapped a zoom command to a Ctrl+something, when you Drag an item and then zoom to see precisely where to place it, the command transfors into Drad-a-Copy. Sometimes hitting Ctrl again does not change it. A workaround I found is to keep Ctrl pressed till you place the item where you want to.

My advice for zooming is to map the command to a single buttom without Ctrl, which you can do in AC9 (at last).

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Erika Epstein — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:30:26 GMT

kliment wrote:

My advice for zooming is to map the command to a single buttom without Ctrl, which you can do in AC9 (at last).

And this you accomplish with both hands full!
Congratulations

Re: To 'Drag a copy' or not to 'Drag a copy'

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:25:52 GMT

Thanks, Erika!
Just doing the best I could