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    <title>topic Re: Railing break mark in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714285#M180310</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the information. At least now I know to be mindful of this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 07:59:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Titiriga</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-09-10T07:59:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/713916#M180298</link>
      <description>&lt;P class="isSelectedEnd"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="isSelectedEnd"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I've been having this issue for a long time, and I figured I wouldn't have anything to lose by asking here for a possible solution.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="isSelectedEnd"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;When dealing with rails that have their end nodes at different levels, and the floor plan needs to show a break mark, I never know whether that break mark will be editable or not. What I mean is that the three &lt;/SPAN&gt;handles&lt;SPAN&gt; I've marked in the screenshot don't always appear. Does anybody know what might be causing this?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="isSelectedEnd"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I have a rail that shows the break mark, but I can never access those three handles to change its parameters (position, angle, width, etc.). Then I use the eyedropper tool to pick up the rail settings and create a new one under similar conditions, and this time the handles work fine.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="isSelectedEnd"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It just drives me crazy. I don't know what determines whether those handles are available or not.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thank you!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 09:32:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/713916#M180298</guid>
      <dc:creator>Titiriga</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-07T09:32:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714041#M180301</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No image attached.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 01:21:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714041#M180301</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-08T01:21:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714189#M180305</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2294"&gt;@Titiriga&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are you saying that the Break Mark is sometimes graphically editable and sometimes it is not? I am checking this in Ac29, but it is never editable for me. I was thinking maybe it depends on whether the "Use Break Mark Settings of Associated Stair" checkbox is checked or not, but for me, it is never editable graphically, I always have to go to the settings dialog and change the various values there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2026 12:13:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714189#M180305</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-09T12:13:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714264#M180308</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello all,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry for the late reply. I’ve attached some images to hopefully clarify what I’m trying to say.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yes, Laszlo, I am saying that the Break Mark is sometimes graphically editable and other times it is not. The problem is that I don’t know what influences this behavior.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In my example, there are two railings that have the same settings and similar overall geometry. &lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt; was created by picking up the properties of &lt;STRONG&gt;B&lt;/STRONG&gt; and creating a similar geometry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;B&lt;/STRONG&gt; is from the original project. &lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt; works as I would expect: if I select it and click Edit, I can click on the Break Mark, and the little handles appear, allowing me to edit it graphically.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For &lt;STRONG&gt;B&lt;/STRONG&gt;, this is not the case. After I click Edit, no matter what I do, I cannot select the Break Mark in order to access those handles.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The problem is that I don’t know what makes the difference between the two.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;     &lt;/P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105744iAAD05CC22ED1CEF4/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="05.jpg" title="05.jpg" /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105745iAE7A03313266822F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="04.jpg" title="04.jpg" /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105746i7B1F16965B6E79DB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="03.jpg" title="03.jpg" /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105747i715F12DCC971622B/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="02.jpg" title="02.jpg" /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105748iEC9F1C7796955E9A/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="01.jpg" title="01.jpg" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 05:51:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714264#M180308</guid>
      <dc:creator>Titiriga</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-10T05:51:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714275#M180309</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am not sure exactly what causes this, but it seems a copied railing leaves the hotspots in the original location.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So they are there somewhere, you just don't know where.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I place with a stair with a railing it is associative and the handles are as you expect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_0-1789022804231.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105749iE8ECD8D0F5902E97/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" alt="BarryKelly_0-1789022804231.png" title="BarryKelly_0-1789022804231.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Drag a copy of the railing and it breaks the associativity, but the hotspots stay related to the stair.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_1-1789022929602.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105750i35A49FADBC124CFB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" alt="BarryKelly_1-1789022929602.png" title="BarryKelly_1-1789022929602.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Drag a copy of the copy and the hotspot remain where the stair was.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can even delete the stair, so it seems they are not linked to the stair in any way.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_2-1789023095136.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105751i381CF482C171EBCF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" alt="BarryKelly_2-1789023095136.png" title="BarryKelly_2-1789023095136.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only when you draw a new railing and adjust the height of one end, do you get the hotspots as they should be.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;ALT+click to get properties is fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_3-1789023185971.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105752i79C260FBE2FEA1D7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" alt="BarryKelly_3-1789023185971.png" title="BarryKelly_3-1789023185971.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now if I drag that new railing with the correct hotspots, the hotspots remain in the original position.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_4-1789023679914.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/105753i005ADE681F984410/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" alt="BarryKelly_4-1789023679914.png" title="BarryKelly_4-1789023679914.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So, it seems if you drag a copy of the railing, it does not move the hotspots.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't know of any way to reset them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only drawing a new railing seems to work.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 07:01:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714275#M180309</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-10T07:01:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Railing break mark</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714285#M180310</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the information. At least now I know to be mindful of this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 07:59:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Railing-break-mark/m-p/714285#M180310</guid>
      <dc:creator>Titiriga</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-10T07:59:15Z</dc:date>
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