topic Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines in Modeling

Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Thomas Holm — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:33:33 GMT

I'm not sure if this is a wish for AC9.1 or if it's just some setting I've missed:
When I'm entering lines or polylines (or walls etc) in Chain mode (that is the second "line geometry method"), if I press the Cancel button or the Esc key, the whole shebang disappears.

1. I would like this to be a two-step operation:

a. Like in AC7, one Cancel/Esc should kill the current "rubberbanding" segment, but leave the rest "pending" for me to OK or kill.

b. After that, an OK button click, an Enter keypress, or a mouseclick elsewhere should place the linechain.
Or: a second Cancel/Esc should kill the whole thing like just one does now.

2. Also, if you have not pressed Cancel/Esc at all, an Enter keypress should place the whole linechain including the current rubberbanding segment up to the current cursor position or to the position you've entered in the Coordinate Box.

This order would give me more control, more options, and require less mouse traveling to hunt for the OK button to click. In fact, it would also practically eliminate the need to set the tool for entering Single lines. Thus, a superior workflow!

Comments? Should this be a wish item?

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:03:35 GMT

Yes!! Bring it back. For a brief moment in time this was a great feature to have. Why can't it come back? This was especially great for working in a distant zoom and didn't want extra "tails" hanging around.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Link — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:17:47 GMT

This is what the backspace key does in 9 and in 8.1, no?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:28:04 GMT

Yes, Link.

The backspace is even better since you can go back each segment of the polyline as needed.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:32:50 GMT

Thanks guys ... and there was coffee on the pages where I got myself lost... corse' being a PB user I have to settle for the delete button.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Thomas Holm — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:44:35 GMT

This is what the backspace key does in 9 and in 8.1, no?

Well, not in 9, at least not in my installation.

- The backspace key deletes the last node placed, but not the (last) rubberbanding segment.

- And an Enter/Return places a new node at the current cursor position. To stop entering more nodes and place the entire polyline I need to press OK with the mouse or click a second time on the last node. Both operations require "mouse hunting".

If you read my posting once again, you'll see there's a significant difference. And to Matthew: I'm not arguing to get rid of the Backspace functionality. i want to add some more options!

To refine it further, I would hope for an Enter that works as now (entering a new node) but a Return to be equivalent of clicking OK!

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:59:06 GMT

Thomas wrote:

To refine it further, I would hope for an Enter that works as now (entering a new node) but a Return to be equivalent of clicking OK!

Actually, I would hope it was just the opposite Enter to end the line, return to add a new node. It would be more consistent with my other wish for placing text.

See http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=4102

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:26:51 GMT

Thomas & Millard,

Good points. It seems there are a couple of fixes calling for reinstating the distinction between return & enter.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:54:22 GMT

Thomas wrote:
This is what the backspace key does in 9 and in 8.1, no?
Well, not in 9, at least not in my installation.

Do you have any mouse software loaded? Mine is working as it did before (in 7). I can go all the way back to the beginning. I do know whenever I've installed any mouse software on my Mac nothing works properly.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:48:28 GMT

I am very much in favor of a key stroke that allows you to finish drawing a multiple segment line etc. In 6.5 the back space worked in this fashion. Can you program a shortcut for the OK button? Perhaps that is the short term awnser. Clicking the same point twice is slow and cumbersome.

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:17:15 GMT

Mike wrote:
I am very much in favor of a key stroke that allows you to finish drawing a multiple segment line etc. In 6.5 the back space worked in this fashion. Can you program a shortcut for the OK button? Perhaps that is the short term awnser. Clicking the same point twice is slow and cumbersome.

Look in WE and shortcuts with alphabetical order of them. You will find OK to assign a short key to.
Joseph

Re: Esc/cancel when drawing polylines

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:32:55 GMT

I am for Esc button! Much easier and convenient! Double-clicking is slow even if you adjust mouse-double-click-speed in the mouse software. And it's also easier to push Esc than Backspace - it's closer to my left hand.

Somewhere between version 5 and 8 functions, performed by Backspace button, were switched to Del button. Fine with me! I've mapped Del to my mouse button. Then WHY BRING BACK Backspace ?!

I am using just a five-button mouse - should I switch to a seven-button?

Or buy a piano...