topic Re: Wall priorities and intersections in Modeling

Wall priorities and intersections

R Muller — Tue, 09 May 2023 14:42:40 GMT

I am trying to clean up the intersections of some complex walls that I made in the Profile editor. Having a hard time understanding the instructions from the help menu.

First of all, when assigning priorities, is priority 1 considered to be "higher" or "lower" than priority 8? The English language is confusing is this respect. "First" priority is more important than "second" priority, but I don't know if ArchiCAD uses it the same way.

Second, what does it mean to assign "core component" status to a given element? How does this change how it will look in 2D intersections? Can there or should there be more than one element of the wall section with "core component" status?

Third, what do hotspots do if placed in the profile window? Do they do somethind special?

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

__archiben — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:47:35 GMT

R wrote:
I am trying to clean up the intersections of some complex walls that I made in the Profile editor. Having a hard time understanding the instructions from the help menu.

First of all, when assigning priorities, is priority 1 considered to be "higher" or "lower" than priority 8? The English language is confusing is this respect. "First" priority is more important than "second" priority, but I don't know if ArchiCAD uses it the same way.

but the priorities aren't assigned 1st, 2nd, etc . . . they are assigned 1, 2, 3 . . . which do you think is higher?!

also, try this thread:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=82488#82488

Second, what does it mean to assign "core component" status to a given element? How does this change how it will look in 2D intersections? Can there or should there be more than one element of the wall section with "core component" status?

there can, and there only should be more than one 'core' skin if that's what your composite/profile requires: "core" status is really not implemented to its fullest potential. at present it is really only any use in dimensioning. under your dimension settings you will find a toggle between dimensioning 'core-only' or the whole wall section. usually only the framing/loadbearing/structural components of a wall are dimensioned and the finishes left out. setting your composite walls up in this way helps your documenting.

Third, what do hotspots do if placed in the profile window? Do they do somethind special?

complex profile window? they probably just aid your drafting of the profile. i've never really tried: complex profiles currently don't have enough intelligence for my liking. they are useful more for 3D patching.

~/archiben

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:01:25 GMT

Regards to your third question...

I have found that when you place hotspots in the complex profile editing window and save your profile with those hotspots it also then creates more hotspots in your 2D window within ArchiCAD.

Maybe the picture shows it better...
hope it helps.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

R Muller — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:02:27 GMT

Thanks for your comments.
Cecilia, I can see from your example what the hot spots do. Archiben, you said the Core elements can be dimensioned to within the wall. That makes sense.

I still can't make any sense out of the use of intersection priorities. Archiben, you seem to imply that priority 16 is the highest priority, not the lowest. I have tried assigning priorities both 16 and 1 and can see no difference in how the walls intersect.

I am still having difficulty getting my complex profile wall intersections to clean up correctly in plan. Sometimes they work, sometimes not, and I can't see what is the difference.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:05:42 GMT

Hi the priority works like this:

In the picture below the red numbers are the priority of each skin within the composite wall.

In no. 1:

All the skins has the same priorities, thus they interact with each other.

In no 2:

The side skins have the same priority being 8, so they interact with each other. However the centre skin has a lower priority (6) than the side skin of wall 5, thus it does not interact with the skin.

In no 3:

only one skin has the same priority so it interacts the other two has a priority lower than the 8 so it does not interact.

In no 4:

the two side skins interact as they have the same priority but the center one has a higher priority than both the centre and side skins of wall 5 thus it over reacts on all of them.

hope you understand what i mean.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:05:36 GMT

what a great graphic! I haven't had to get into modifying priorities, but I'll referencing this when I do.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

R Muller — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:59:06 GMT

Wow, Cecelia, your illustration is just what I wanted! I hope Graphisoft picks it up and puts it in their manual.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

TomWaltz — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:55:56 GMT

Cecilia

that is the best representation of wall priorities I have ever seen. Great job!

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Srinivas — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:11:45 GMT

Cecilia,

What a nice way to explain about wall priorities. Good work!

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Nando Mogollon — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:39:57 GMT

... the archicad Guide should be that simple and easy...

couldn't be easier to understand.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Rod Jurich — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:33:35 GMT

Chris wrote:
what a great graphic! I haven't had to get into modifying priorities, but I'll referencing this when I do.

I agree with the comments of others, Cecilia's graphic is excellent.

For those that intend using this to control your wall intersections
then remember you will also need to create as many different
wall composites as you have different intersections.

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Djordje — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:31:47 GMT

Cecilia, Graphisoft should hire you to do the manuals! Great work!

Re: Wall priorities and intersections

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:34:33 GMT

Hi, thanx for all the nice feedback. Glad it was of some help to you all.