topic Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem in Modeling

Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 23 May 2023 13:24:03 GMT

In this custom wall profile - vaulted roof with walls, I've trimmed a short segment with SEO slabs into tapered segments for multiplying in an arc.

When assembled, the pieces won't go - there's some kind of SEO trim conflict where little tapered triangles are cut into what should be solid material.

See attached.

Even individually assigning the SEO does not fix it.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Link — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:09:07 GMT

Are they on different layers with different intersection priority numbers? Can you post a module of them?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:17:10 GMT

Can you please put your machine specs and archicad version number in your signature so we can help you with this problem.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:19:11 GMT

Signature full of ad right now.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:24:24 GMT

Here's the module to play with

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:26:47 GMT

Hello Dwight,
I see what you mean. Strange since the cut does not appear
in the first segment that is not joined to the others.

I almost posted you earlier about whether you had
attempted a shape like the one you show because
I was doing a similar shape with profiled walls.
What I was doing was, using a half barrel vault shape, making
a curved path similar to yours, utilizing the mitering behavior of walls.

Instead of making the wedge shapes using SEO, have you tried
making a short straight segment, then radially multiplying it in such a way
that they touch at the inner curve and making them miter at the
outside edge like any wall does ?

Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:43:34 GMT

Yes, it is obvious that the assembly causes the anomaly. The overlapping SEO's - but how?

Of course, I could use the multiple short segment technique, but that is a lot of wasted polygons. Don't want to cause a parrot shortage. (Polly gone.)

Dwight

Octet processor G6 with 32 Gb of Ram
three 42" displays and gestural interpretive user interface running Archicad 16. (Next year.)

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Link — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:09:52 GMT

I think it's your profile. Far too many nodes (apparently). Maybe try putting just a single curve in the profile, instead of all those points. AC still struggles, but not as much.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:47:05 GMT

Hello Dwight,
I tried what I had suggested but that caused a horizontal chunk to be
cut out of the wall segments. This was due to the wall reference line
being at the center rather than at the outer edge.
Something I could not change.

I do not know why this is happening but I notice that those
weird cuts stop at the reference line.
Could you try changing the reference line to one edge or the other,
maybe the outer edge, and see what happens ?

Just a shot in the dark.
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Link — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:08:50 GMT

Peter's right, the walls are trying to heal with each other, which is certainly not helping. If you put each wall on a layer with it's own priority number, the situation is suddenly much easier.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:25:29 GMT

swell. thankx.
now I must learn that stuff.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:27:48 GMT

Hello Dwight,
Could you tell us how you finally got this to work ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:34:15 GMT

Once Worldwide Link identified the solution - layer priorities - I assigned alternating elements alternating layers (total=2 layers, priority 1 and priority 2) and the triangular slots disappeared.

Viola.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:51:49 GMT

Thank you Dwight.
I will remember that one.
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:10:47 GMT

I am doing a lot of that stuff these days so it is nice to have a solution.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

TomWaltz — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:18:40 GMT

OK, I don't even have a joke for this one.... what is that, Dwight?

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

__archiben — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:22:15 GMT

why did you have to use SEO's? couldn't you have space-clicked your wall onto the desired curved line. the 'magic wand settings' could be set to define the number of segments you're after?

just a thought . . .

ben

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

Dwight — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:48:25 GMT

I was unaware that custom profile could be lead around in circles?
Space clicking on a curved path yields a different wall - a square block.

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

TomWaltz — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:51:18 GMT

Dwight wrote:
I was unaware that custom profile could be lead around in circles?
Space clicking on a curved path yields a different wall - a square block.

When you try to trick Archicad into drawing a curved profile, you get a rectangular profile the same size instead 😞

Re: Custom Wall Profile/SEO Problem

__archiben — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:51:54 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Space clicking on a curved path yields a different wall - a square block.

do it with the beam tool . . . ?