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Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 13:23:59 GMT

Hello...
Ive got a problem with trimming the wall to the stairs. I did search the forum for that but found only few suggestion which doesnt solve my situation.I've got a circular stairs and an angle shape wall under it . I dont know if in 8.1 version SEO doesnt work in that case .. i assume so. If anyone could tell me how to at least create a roof with the shape of the stair slab so i Could maybe trim it to the roof. Or maybe there is other way ?? Any Tips? I would be very greatful...

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:34:12 GMT

I notice that now there are 18 views of this thread and no replies.
This may be because we do not have enough information.
I know I don't.
We don't know how the stair was built.
Was it made with StairMaker, StairBuider, AC tools
such as the slab tool or the mesh tool, a library part,
or some other way ?
What is an "angle shape wall" ?
A while back, someone posted that they could not get
a StairBuilder stair to SEO with a wall and apparently
the problem was caused by a railing parameter setting.
Please give us more information and possibly a screen shot.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:14:55 GMT

Ok here u got a picture .. I've made them with stairmaker.. i want to make it somehow so the wall will be trimmed to the bottom of the stairs

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fran_ois Chatelain — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:24:25 GMT

Hi Roody,
why don't you use the mesh tool instead of a wall. No need to trim and height is easily adjustable if need be.
Just a suggestion. Well, that's how I usually do it anyway...
Cheers
François

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

David Maudlin — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:22:37 GMT

Roody:

If the wall is slightly behind the stair stringer (the vertical piece at the side of the stair), you could segment the wall into parts that match the run of each tread, then adjust the height of each wall segment to end below each tread.

David

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:57:48 GMT

Yes ... ur right Fran.. but I want to do it as smooth as is can be i dont know if ill be able to do that with mesh tool. However I'll try.
Im doing the foyer and I'ts the only thing thats out of ordinary in my project so i need to do it as precise as possible . Thanks a lot for answer.
Enjoy your time !

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fran_ois Chatelain — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:33:52 GMT

Hi Roody,
how much smoother can it be 😉

François

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:54:13 GMT

Yea..Like i said it might be ok .. but im working under 8.1 version and i find its more difficult to do then in for ex. 10th . Thanks for advise ..Hope i didnt consume to much time.
BTW: how long do u use archicad ?

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fran_ois Chatelain — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:05:26 GMT

Hi Roody,
glad to help. Using AC since 1992.
Cheers
F

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:34:44 GMT

RoodyHood wrote:
Hello...
Ive got a problem with trimming the wall to the stairs.

I've got a similar problem in AC10. I want to create a 5'-6' tall thin wall/screen like Imago that will essentially sit on top of the circular stairs, outside the handrails, kind of like a second handrail. It will need to be trimmed at the base to the stairs - and also needs to have the top line follow the upward curve of the stairs as well, so that it maintains a constant height from bottom to top. IOW, I essentially want an angled panel sitting outside the handrail.

I haven't fully decided if I want it to step up step-by-step with the stairs or not, but I'm thinking I might prefer to have a smooth line both top and bottom, and mount it a few inches above the treads on legs.

Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

The stairs are built in ArchiStair.

Wendy

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fran_ois Chatelain — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:04:25 GMT

Hi Wendy,
you have two options here, either use the roof tool or the "curved ramp" object located in the structural elements folder of the library. Both options would work equally.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
François

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fabrizio Diodati — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:21:56 GMT

Wendy,

do you mean something like this (look at the attached image)?

Friendly
Fabrizio

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Fabrizio Diodati — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:28:58 GMT

... or like this?

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Fabrizio

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:42:33 GMT

answering the original question:
what about solid element operations & substraction with upwards extrusion?

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:37:32 GMT

Fabrizio wrote:
Wendy,

do you mean something like this (look at the attached image)?

Friendly
Fabrizio

Yes, Fabrizio - sort of. It has to sit outside the handrails, and has to be much taller.

I don't see any parameter in the panel section of ArchiStair that will allow this kind of separate control, or allow one to set a height for just the panel.

Wendy

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:40:50 GMT

Fabrizio wrote:
... or like this?

Friendly
Fabrizio

I tried, those, and they are getting towards the height question - but the panel has to extend *upwards* from the stair, and has to slope with the stair on both the top and the bottom.

If there were a setting to control the height of the panel, and it could extend above the level of the handrail, that's the closest to what I'm after.

The idea is to create a visual screen for people ascending or descending the stairs.

Wendy

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:45:38 GMT

François wrote:
Hi Wendy,
you have two options here, either use the roof tool or the "curved ramp" object located in the structural elements folder of the library. Both options would work equally.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
François

Thanks, Francois, but how would the roof tool work? This is, after all, a helical object, and it seems like trimming to a roof would chop off everything that was above that level, which I don't want. And I have to create the helix somehow, with a vertical flat plane.

As to the curved ramp, that's an interesting idea, except for the flat plane needing to be perpendicular to the ground plane, not parallel. Or what would I do, set the ramp width to 1/8" of an inch or whatever, and then I assume there's a setting for its depth?

Wendy

Re: Trimming wall to circular stairs...

Srinivas — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:27:37 GMT

krokoO wrote:
answering the original question:
what about solid element operations & substraction with upwards extrusion?

Yes, this is the perfect solution for the problem.