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US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:00:52 GMT

What are the actual differences between the UK, US and International versions of ArchiCAD? Would a dongle for one version be interchangable with another?

Also, I know what the student edition saves in its own format but can read full format, but the full version cannot read student version files, but there is a third version isn't there? The education version? This can read and save in both file formats..

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:22:26 GMT

SuperJasE wrote:
What are the actual differences between the UK, US and International versions of ArchiCAD? Would a dongle for one version be interchangable with another?

the default start-up preferences and the libraries that get shipped with it. sometimes other country's distributors add some of their own objects and add-ons to the mix.

regarding dongles: archicad - the application - has no influence beyond the start-up preferences described above. the license type is held on your dongle. i have an INT dongle which i can use to start up any of the NZE installed archicad's here in the office . . . as an INT license.

Also, I know what the student edition saves in its own format but can read full format, but the full version cannot read student version files, but there is a third version isn't there? The education version? This can read and save in both file formats..

no idea! i thought the EDU version was the student version . . . ?

and is there a fully fledged UK version now?! the UK archicad has always been the INT version, but i did know that plans were afoot to customise it a little more for the UK market . . .

~/archiben

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:39:19 GMT

So you are saying that any dongle can open any ArchiCAD basically? When I was at university I remember that the computers in the CAD labs could open either file version and seemed to save files that I could use at work. I think it was called the -U version? I don't know, I could be imagining the whole thing. I also assumed there was a UK version as I remember there being an update for an early version I was using when I was a student, but it was the same file as the INT version.

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Aladar Kish — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:20:11 GMT

I use both FRA (French) and INT applications. Until early this year when the AC9, 18xx revision came out, my INT dongle would open both of these. When the AC10 FRA version became available, late last month, Abvent changed my dongle to a FRA license which now opens both versions in 9 and 10.
FYI

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:51:19 GMT

SuperJasE wrote:
... When I was at university I remember that the computers in the CAD labs could open either file version and seemed to save files that I could use at work. I think it was called the -U version? I don't know, I could be imagining the whole thing.

No, you're right, with v8.1, there used to be (probably still is) 2 types of educational Archicads. One for institutions (And I think it was called the U version) and one for students. Can't quite remember what the differences where - I don't think the student one could open or save as dwgs, and there was some restrictions on opening .plns (they had they're own file format), I think the U version had less restrictions.

SuperJasE wrote:
I also assumed there was a UK version as I remember there being an update for an early version I was using when I was a student, but it was the same file as the INT version.

No different UK version, I guess the .000001% of the UK CAD market that uses Archicad doesn't make it worthwhile.

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Chris Phillips — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:08:27 GMT

I think that you will find that the Uk and int versions are the same, occasionally GS threaten to issue a UK library but this seems to be a bit quiet at the moment. The US version has a detail library that seems to be suited for lightweight timber frame structures. Now if only GS would use English as per OED and get rid of those parochial us "isms"!

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Dwight — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:00:08 GMT

Like story = storey?

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:03:32 GMT

I remember trying to find exactly where that Ghost Story was in ArchiCAD for my bed time reading.

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Dwight — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:05:52 GMT

And just try to find a parametric Ghost Object in the library. I had to import from 3Ds and that means that the sheet is always the same.

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Chris Phillips — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:00:24 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Like story = storey?

Too true..it's like nails being dragged down a blackboard!

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:44:50 GMT

Also in sotrey settings: Storey 0 (International) = Storey 1 (US)
so a 10 floors building anywhere in the world is 11 floors in north america!

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Dwight — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:47:35 GMT

That is to compensate for the fact that they take out the thirteenth floor on higher structures.

WOW: Note to self: Great concept for horror movie:

"The Fourteenth Floor."

Where a hotel, having creepy events on its thirteenth floor, renumbers its upper floors, but the creepy things keep happening.

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Ernest Atanasiu — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:04 GMT

... and all because of the architect, who planned the building in AC INT instead of US version, and then suddenly died in front of the PC, and his last words were: 'i should have printed the the ghost story...'

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

__archiben — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:38:49 GMT

uisanata wrote:
... and his last words were: 'i should have printed the the ghost story...'

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

andrewzarb — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:22:22 GMT

So should I set the Ghost storey to the thiteenth floor then?

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Ernest Atanasiu — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:28:35 GMT

all stories must be ghosts. like scooby-doo or something...

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

andrewzarb — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:36:22 GMT

I remember when ArchiCAD was introducing ghost stories.
I expected the distributor to come around, turn off the lights and stick a torch under his chin...

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Ernest Atanasiu — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:44:17 GMT

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:10:54 GMT

Well the v10 US dongle arrived today and it doesn't seem to work with INT

Re: US, UK and International versions of ArchiCAD

stefan — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:21:09 GMT

SuperJasE wrote:
So you are saying that any dongle can open any ArchiCAD basically? When I was at university I remember that the computers in the CAD labs could open either file version and seemed to save files that I could use at work. I think it was called the -U version? I don't know, I could be imagining the whole thing. I also assumed there was a UK version as I remember there being an update for an early version I was using when I was a student, but it was the same file as the INT version.

The educational license for ArchiCAD has changed with release 10. Check the Educational forum section.