topic Re: Landscape drawing in Modeling

Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:12:17 GMT

Does anyone have a technique they would like to share for doing a landscape plan in AC10?

My goal is to use library plants that in 2d can have custom text. For my colored landscape plan I want to just view the 3d model from the top and get a nice color plan with shadows.

Currently I was trying to use the "Tree 3d 01" with the object ID being the custom text the corresponds with the plant legend. I then auto Label the tree.

Any other ideas? objects?

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:58:27 GMT

Maybe I should post this in another catgory? Now I'm curious how others do their landscape plans.

Re: Landscape drawing

TomWaltz — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:10:09 GMT

Crossposting is never a good idea.

My site plans in Archicad are usually black and white and any color ones are Photoshopped.

In general, you don't have a way to get shadows projected in plan in Archicad, so you would probably have to do this as a rendering in the 3D window.... except then you cannot place any text on it. Unfortunately there is no way to place labels in a rendering.

My recommendation would be to save the 3D rendering as a bitmap then place the text in with Photoshop or some other graphics software.

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:14:03 GMT

"TomWaltz" wrote:
Unfortunately there is no way to place labels in a rendering.

I used to use an 3D Text object so to add texts to my renderings. It worked ok. I am not sure I can remember in which version's library this object can be found.

Re: Landscape drawing

TomWaltz — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:37:02 GMT

constantine wrote:
I used to use an 3D Text object so to add texts to my renderings. It worked ok. I am not sure I can remember in which version's library this object can be found.

You can place 3D text in a couple ways, but not labels (tied to the object or ID in some way)

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:21:25 GMT

thanks for the pointers.

Ok, so I will not be able to use the ID label but I will just be copying the trees around grouped with a 3d text object.

Anyone want to post their colored landscape plans as examples?

Re: Landscape drawing

Link — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:37:04 GMT

Jeff wrote:
Does anyone have a technique they would like to share for doing a landscape plan in AC10?

My goal is to use library plants that in 2d can have custom text. For my colored landscape plan I want to just view the 3d model from the top and get a nice color plan with shadows.

Currently I was trying to use the "Tree 3d 01" with the object ID being the custom text the corresponds with the plant legend. I then auto Label the tree.

Any other ideas? objects?

Looks like you've found the best solution already.

Set your 3D window to Internal Engine with Vectorical Sun Shadows set to Contours On and your Parallel Projection to Top with the camera azimuth at 270 degrees.

Then in the 3D Window use the Marquee tool with the Geometry method set to flat, and copy the entire plan as a scaled drawing. Then paste that back into your floor plan. Use the undo/redo trick to select the pasted elements, group and move them onto a dedicated layer.

This gives a one time snapshot of shadows and colored plans, that it is very quick and easy, so while it isn't live, it is simple to update.

Then you can auto-label away. There's really not much more to it AFAIR.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:39:22 GMT

thanks for the technique.

I guess I'll be an "unlinker" just this one time

Re: Landscape drawing

Link — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:46:05 GMT

Juuuuust this once!

I have used this technique to map the image back onto a mesh too. Just make a material out of image and apply it to the mesh.

Probably a little off topic, but maybe worth a mention.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Landscape drawing

Thomas Holm — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:04:55 GMT

Link wrote:
Probably a little off topic, but maybe worth a mention.

Absolutely! Amazing, Link! My I humbly request a link to a description of your technique?

Re: Landscape drawing

Link — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:36:14 GMT

Thomas wrote:
Link wrote:
Probably a little off topic, but maybe worth a mention.
Absolutely! Amazing, Link! My I humbly request a link to a description of your technique?

If I could hyperlink directly to my brain, I'd be a much richer man today!

Here's a basic run down:

Create a colored plan by using a mesh with a solid cover fill and colored contour lines, and separate fills, etc;
Magic wand a marquee on the mesh;
Print the marquee to a PDF (you can get varying results with different resolutions, sizes etc, but the default size at 72dpi is a good starting point);
In Photoshop or other graphics program save that as a PSD or tif image;
Load that image in the Library Manager;
Duplicate a similar material in the Materials dialog and Search for the image as a texture;
Make sure the (x/y) size of the image matches the (x/y) size of your mesh;
Apply that material to the top of your mesh;
Use Design > Align 3D Texture > Set Origin to set the origin of the material to the mesh;
View in 3D using the OpenGL engine.

That's the basics of it, but it has varying degrees of difficulty usually depending on the size and shape of the mesh.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Landscape drawing

Link — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:41:52 GMT

Here's another variation, but the texture was created mostly in Photoshop.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Landscape drawing

Djordje — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:09:19 GMT

Link,

Would you mind composing a Wiki entry using what you have already done here?

Worth it!

Re: Landscape drawing

Link — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:46:35 GMT

I was just doing a little research and found a tip that I contributed exactly two and a half years ago!!

It's right here.

Now that we have cover fills, it's a little outdated, but the principle is still the same. Feel free to add it to the wiki.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:57:21 GMT

Jeff-

I am a landscape architect that uses Archicad for EVERYTHING. send me a specific and let's ee if I can help. I do exactly what you are describing weekly, but have never had a great deal of problems-- labels are added in PlotMaker, on top of 3D view. It is a very texture rich way to do things.

Another way to do it is "paste" the 3D view back into the 2D drawing. Cool things happen when you use the 3D as a underlay for the 2D work. Have also done this in Freehand and Illustrator as well as Photoshop.

I have also found straight out of 2D Archicad renderings to be quite nice-- at times better than the 3D stuff.

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:18:03 GMT

Rip,

Great to hear from someone with hands on experience. This is my first time creating a landscape plan.

This is what I ended up doing.... right or wrong.

1. I opened the civil plan
2. I used slabs and the 3d text object to create library parts for each plant.
3. I placed the parts at varying heights so that it would cast shadows in the 3d view
4. The plan view was used for the L-1 landscape plan
5. The top down 3d view of the plan was used for the colored landscape plan required by the city.

This method allowed for:
1. easy manipulation of the custom library parts for corrections/changes.
2. text the appeared in 2d and 3d using the 3d text object

For what it's worth I never "unlink" my model or use Archicad to draft in the 2d manner you would with other programs. The method I used seems to still used the 2d-3d association that is a great power of AC.

This is all a work in progress.

Thanks,
Jeff

Re: Landscape drawing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:59:52 GMT

3d top view rendered with shadows of 2d plan view

Re: Landscape drawing

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:40:59 GMT

Thanks for sharing.
Nice result.