topic Re: Working the Core in Modeling

Working the Core

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:11:59 GMT

Core Question.
In my practice I don’t go to structural drawings until design phase is accepted,(signed off), so very little change happens after this stage.

In the attached image the lower walls and doorway are the original(1).
Pasted above is copy of that wall (for demonstration purposes) ,which has been exploded onto it’s own story, (fills deleted, original components moved to layer that is turned off)(2).

So now I have just lines with core (framing) in a unique pen, so I can select the the other main wall lines and delete them. This leaves the core(3) and end lines(4) on their own story and layer. Almost great for “Core-only” set, with the not so great end lines, which are to long and to many of them.

Until there is true core only
Two questions: 1. Is there a way to make end lines (4) not hang over? (Two much like drafting)
2. GS. Can you please allow switch in MVO that when you show opening only that there is line in the middle option , (mine shown as dot dash). This is very common practice for structural engineers, without the need to draft in beams? Please?
How do others feel about need for door and window beam option in MVO?
Larry

Re: Working the Core

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:01:08 GMT

You can turn off Skin End Lines within the composite settings (before exploding your walls )

Re: Working the Core

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:14:42 GMT

Have you tried using specific pens for your non-core elements (both skin lines, end lines and fills)? With a custom pen table, you can make those elements white...which gets you close to core-only and completely live. Depending on what's going on, the white lines may create little gaps on other core elements...

Karl

Re: Working the Core

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:37:41 GMT

Thanks Stuart and Karl for your replies.
Stuart,
Turning off the end lines is an option I had not considered, however that leaves me with no
end line,(obviously). So then it does not look like empty opening as shown (or implied) in MVO
It would seem uncompleted to me, and so just not sure I’m with that option yet. And then I would
have to draft them in anyway. I like to know fairly accurately where my door and windows start and stop.

Karl
As far as white pen, that also leave open end, if I’m reading that right.
Somehow that just seems uncompleted also, especially when I add dash, sm dash line as headers
as I’m use to doing for structural sheets. The header lines would look like there’re
hanging in the air, like as if the column posts where not shown in structural.
Yes I did specifically set my separator lines in the composite I’m using so that I could select the pens
I would use to turn off outer skin and lines with, having turned “use structures settings” on in both
cut lines and separator lines, of the wall settings.
I do very much appreciate the specific answers here.
I’m using a pen table I created.
Your replies are generous.
Any ideas why core only is not here yet?
Thanks again
Larry