topic Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments in Modeling

inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Rakela Raul — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:36:48 GMT

the 'inside fence selection' selects a 'group of elements' outside the fence but 'overlapg' the fence?, seems that the group should be considered 1 pack and shouldnt be selected cuz not inside...
the 'beam tool' doesnt have the fill option and i wd like to use it (sometimes in lieu of the missing footing tool)

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:28:17 GMT

Is there a question being asked here?

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Rakela Raul — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:17:10 GMT

no, only a couple of things that calld my attention and could b important for someone else ..thx

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:17:37 GMT

Rakela wrote:
the 'inside fence selection' selects a 'group of elements' outside the fence but 'overlapg' the fence?, seems that the group should be considered 1 pack and shouldnt be selected cuz not inside...

I disagree. This is proper behavior to me ... grouping says to select anything in the group, at all times. If you want the behavior that you had hoped for, Rakela, then you need to 'suspend grouping' (alt-g is the default keyboard shortcut).

Grouping needs to be suspended for all kinds of other operations, so this behavior seems consistent and logical IMHO. 😉

Karl

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

TomWaltz — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:33:31 GMT

I believe the Marqee tool follow the Arrow Tool settings for "crossing" and "fully inside" when it comes to selection.

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Rakela Raul — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:50:38 GMT

hey, dont bite my head off for that karl...!!
if you are using the 'inside fence' why should i see highlited elements outside the fence??
because they belong to a group of elements, a few of them inside the 'inside fence" selection?? , do u really think it makes sense?
more logical in my personal opinion should be that you see them highlited with the typical id for grouped elements and you shouldnt be able to do anything with them because they are part of others elements somewhere outside the 'inside fence' selection....
and btw, thx for the selection/search tool "wake up click" this past weekend.

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

TomWaltz — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:31:57 GMT

because they belong to a group of elements, a few of them inside the 'inside fence" selection?? , do u really think it makes sense?

Yes. That's the PURPOSE of grouping. If you select one item, other related items move with it. If you do not want that behavior, you turn on "Suspend Groups."

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Rakela Raul — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:36:39 GMT

ohh ok i didnt know that thx and sorry about it

Re: inside fence selection + beam tool comments

Rakela Raul — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:05:31 GMT

deleted and moved to 'others products'