topic Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows in Modeling

3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:17:24 GMT

The standard AC9 library only has a horizontal-sliding window that has 2 panels.

Is there any object out there that can allow me to create a 3 (or more) panel sliding window easily?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:30:19 GMT

YES - Cadimage DoorWindow Builder.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

TomWaltz — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:33:45 GMT

Does your library not have this object? Or am I misunderstanding your?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

__archiben — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:41:35 GMT

nope - INT has only two-panel sliders . . .

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

TomWaltz — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:52:51 GMT

then what does "W Sliding Sash 3" do?

Or is the intention here 3 vertically not 3 across?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

__archiben — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:01:14 GMT

it's a sash (vertical slider) not a horizontal slider . . . (graphisoft's architectural terminology needs a polish-up as well! )

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:32:02 GMT

Hi Guys

Thanks for your opinions and suggestions. Perhaps I could be a bit more explanative in what I am trying to look for.

Please look at the image attached. I am looking for ways to contruct 3-panel/multiple-panel versions of this kind of window.

It's quite funny when I think about it, as this is something that feel is rather common (I have 3/4/5 panel sliding windows all over my house), yet there is nothing in the standard AC library that can allow me to create that.

Seiss Wagner: Is Cadimage DoorWindow Builder expensive to own? Do you think that the cost of it justifies its usage if I were to just create sliding windows with it?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:44:42 GMT

Here is your three panel slider window by Cadimage DoorWindow Builder. You could make four or more panels if you wished. However, as is usual, all is not perfect in the virtual world of BIM.

Even though the elevation view of the window appears correct, the plan view inserts, what appears to be, a fixed mullion. See the next attachment for a plan view

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:57:26 GMT

Here is the plan view of the three panel sliding window.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:07:06 GMT

Shingo wrote:
Seiss Wagner: Is Cadimage DoorWindow Builder expensive to own? Do you think that the cost of it justifies its usage if I were to just create sliding windows with it?

You probably won't need to use anything else if you have D&WB, it covers most situations pretty well. The main gripe I have with it, as Seiss mentions above, is the way it displays sliding windows on plan, which is not what you want to hear.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:26:07 GMT

And here in plan "full detail" is what "s2art" is referring to:

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:27:10 GMT

But the 3D view is not bad at all. Unfortunately, one cannot reconcile the plan view with the elevation.... it appears to be two different windows, which is better known in the world of software as "sloppy programing"

I am sorry Shingo, I guess I was mistaken, it looks like DoorWindow Builder won't be able to fulfill your needs.

However, it is still the most versatile modeler, that I have found, for doors and windows.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Stress Co_ — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:04:01 GMT

Shingo wrote:
Is Cadimage DoorWindow Builder expensive to own? Do you think that the cost of it justifies its usage if I were to just create sliding windows with it?

Shingo:
Is it worth it? ... I'm not sure. I'm stuck halfway between using the Specical Edition Library and DoorWindow Builder. In the past, I wasted so much time trying to get special windows to look right using the AC9 Library that I purchased DoorWindow Builder. If it saved time it would be worth the cost, right? I haven't perfected using it (read: I'm wasting time with trial and error, trying to make things look right)... so no savings yet. The documentation is a bit weak (in my opinion)and a few bugs, but there is great potential.

It's $199.00 USD and you can find it here:

http://www.cadimagetools.com/home.php?page=products&PHPSESSID=fc454ec7938a2d248da763a24014b5a1

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Seiss Wagner — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:06:17 GMT

The documentation is a bit weak (in my opinion)and a few bugs, but there is great potential.

I wish to take issue with Stress Co, I am not selling Cadimage products, but I think the 55 page reference manual provided with DoorWindow Builder puts the documentation provided by Graphisoft for the door and window package of the Special Edition Library to shame.

I have spent far more trial and error time working with the SE9 Library then I have ever spent guessing at DoorWindow Builder. That said, let me comment; the one mistake all these companies make is that they don't provide a glossary of terms, so you never really know what they mean when they use a word like "Architrave", because they don't define it. Then by trail and error, guess and by golly, you learn what they mean, and it is such a waste of time.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Stress Co_ — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:21:46 GMT

Seiss wrote:
The documentation is a bit weak (in my opinion)and a few bugs, but there is great potential.

I wish to take issue with Stress Co, I am not selling Cadimage products, but I think the 55 page reference manual provided with DoorWindow Builder puts the documentation provided by Graphisoft for the door and window package of the Special Edition Library to shame.

I just re-reread the Cadimage Manual..... and maybe I should have said "soft" in a few places, instead of weak. ... and there's a Manual for the SE Library? ... I'll have to check that out.

Bottom Line for me.... (for out of the ordinary: doors, window and trims) some are easier & quicker to build using the SE Library.... are some with DoorWindow Builder.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:16:39 GMT

This ArchiCAD 9 Special Edition Library...never heard of it.

I tried searching on the Graphisoft website for some info regarding this library...nothing appears.

This library ain't for free, right?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:17:52 GMT

It's developed in the US for the US market, I believe.

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

__archiben — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:23:44 GMT

s2art wrote:
It's developed in the US for the US market, I believe.

go knock yourselves out:

http://tr.graphisoftus.com/

but: READ the disclaimers carefully: they are not cross-compatible with other libraries . . .

~/archiben

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:16:30 GMT

Hi Ben

Thanks for the link. Will take a look at this SE library.

While its still downloading, I was just wondering if loading this SE library together with the standard library would cause any conflicts.
Does the SE library replace or enrich the standard one?

Re: 3-Panel Or More Sliding Windows

__archiben — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:25:21 GMT

Shingo wrote:
While its still downloading, I was just wondering if loading this SE library together with the standard library would cause any conflicts.

in order to download the library you need to read a disclaimer that tells you all of that information. you have to click to say that you have read and understood. you clearly haven't.

READ the compatibility rules!

~/archiben