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    <title>topic Re: When is AC 10 Release Date in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/46031#M23233</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;rwallis wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Barry,&lt;BR /&gt;
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Interested to read your experience of the subscription thing. I too thought it looked unbelievable when I saw potentially two major upgrades in the 2 year period! Reading the fine print I saw that you had to join 6mths PRIOR a major release. Given the usual 18mth cycle obviously only one upgrade would then be possible. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Given the forms were backdated to beginning of the year I don't think we'll see it here before July.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Like the somewhat muted release of AC10 I think the marketing needs attention. Overall the subscription package was good but not presented well enough to make a case with my employers...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Robert,&lt;BR /&gt;
It all comes out equal over a four year period anyway.&lt;BR /&gt;
Even if there is only one upgrade in the first 2 years up to end of 2007, there will (should?) be 2 upgrades within the following 24 months.&lt;BR /&gt;
This is assuming the 18 month upgrade cycle is continued.&lt;BR /&gt;
There is nothing about that in the contract though.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Now that V10 is being released next week, that gives Graphisoft Australia 2 months (nearly) to bring out the Ausie version to keep us hopefully in the 2 upgrade cycle.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We've taken out the subscription because it can be paid monthly and I believe can be claimed straight away as a tax deduction rather than depreciating over 3 years (I'll leave that for the accountants).&lt;BR /&gt;
Also the dongle insurance was good value, no need to insure them separately.&lt;BR /&gt;
The 100 hour PPU dongles and free library parts and support are a nice extra - but not essential.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
On it's own the subsription (@ 15% of license value) would not be attractive to us.&lt;BR /&gt;
But as it includes at least 1 (but hopefully 2) upgrades (which on their own are 20% of license value) plus the benefits of the subscription, we thought it was worth it.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Worst case senario we have paid 10% of license value for the subscription if there is one upgrade before the end of 2007.&lt;BR /&gt;
But then this will right itself over the next 2 years.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Best case we get 2 upgrades plus subscription and it's benefits and save 10% of what it would have cost to upgrade alone.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
With 69 licenses the $ soon mount up.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Barry.</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:39:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-04-28T09:39:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45964#M23166</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;I thought AC 10 was going to be released around the end of February.  Any ideas on when the new version will be out, and what capabilities it will have.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Grant&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:20:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-16T22:20:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45965#M23167</link>
      <description>Look 2 posts up from yours.....</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:45:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45965#M23167</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-16T23:45:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45966#M23168</link>
      <description>so when?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:09:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45966#M23168</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-17T10:09:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45967#M23169</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;samsung wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;so when?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

If you read the multiple lengthy posts, no one knows yet.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:45:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45967#M23169</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-17T10:45:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45968#M23170</link>
      <description>FYI&lt;BR /&gt;
Our office just had an online-conference call presentation done on ArchiCAD and the salesman was using version 10.  Or so he said.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:38:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45968#M23170</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-24T04:38:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45969#M23171</link>
      <description>Was he Russian? &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:43:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45969#M23171</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-24T04:43:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45970#M23172</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;s2art wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Was he Russian? &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

No but he did do it very quickly &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;   Boom &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;   Boom &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Barry. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:24:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45970#M23172</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-24T09:24:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45971#M23173</link>
      <description>Maybe they are timing it to come out with Windows Vista.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:34:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45971#M23173</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bob Moore</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-24T14:34:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45972#M23174</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;boofredlay wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;FYI&lt;BR /&gt;
Our office just had an online-conference call presentation done on ArchiCAD and the salesman was using version 10.  Or so he said.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Really? Do you remember who did the presentation?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:42:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45972#M23174</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-24T14:42:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45973#M23175</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Barry wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;s2art wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Was he Russian? &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

No but he did do it very quickly &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;   Boom &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;   Boom &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_exclaim.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
 &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:12:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45973#M23175</guid>
      <dc:creator>__archiben</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-25T03:12:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45974#M23176</link>
      <description>Josh did the presentation.&lt;BR /&gt;
I forget his last name right now.  I can post when I get back to work Monday.&lt;BR /&gt;
No he was not russian.  I believe he did the presentation from Atlanta Georga USA.  And he took his time &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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We did get a note from him saying that version 10 would be released at the end of next month.  I am guessing he means at the end of April but it could be May.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:07:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45974#M23176</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-25T23:07:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45975#M23177</link>
      <description>I hope they fix the SE9 library before they call it se10.  See  my posts in the Libraries forum</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:04:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45975#M23177</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tom Krowka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-30T16:04:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45976#M23178</link>
      <description>I notice Revit is being released on the 12th April.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Cmon Graphisoft, we can beat them!!!!!!!&lt;BR /&gt;
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Going O.T. for a moment, Revit is downloadable from the web, it would great if GS adopted this, and we didnt have to wait for the manuals / packaging  to be completed before shipping of the release candidate.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I feel a poll coming on !!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:03:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-03-31T15:03:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45977#M23179</link>
      <description>IDC, ArchiCAD Reseller in Switzerland has made a presentation online (in german): &lt;A href="http://www.archicad10.ch/" target="_blank"&gt;www.archicad10.ch/&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
Shipping date: beginning of summer... (the version for switzerland is always late)</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:17:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T07:17:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45978#M23180</link>
      <description>Someone in the know told me that that the marketing announcements will be made public April 17th with the release coming at the end of April! The Mac version will be Universal!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:24:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45978#M23180</guid>
      <dc:creator>archislave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T14:24:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45979#M23181</link>
      <description>I hope it will be bug free.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:02:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tom Krowka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T16:02:38Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45980#M23182</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Tom wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I hope it will be bug free.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Yeah, and I want a pony.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:18:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T18:18:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is AC 10 Release Date</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45981#M23183</link>
      <description>Tom! You naughty boy!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Thomas Holm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T19:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45982#M23184</link>
      <description>oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, the pony is in the mail.   Honest.  Really.  no kidding.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:24:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45982#M23184</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tom Krowka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-06T19:24:42Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/When-is-AC-10-Release-Date/m-p/45983#M23185</link>
      <description>And, concerning the release date, a little bit more specific: &lt;A href="http://www.graphisoft.de/produkte/archicad/archicad10/" target="_blank"&gt;www.graphisoft.de/produkte/archicad/archicad10/&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:41:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-04-11T08:41:21Z</dc:date>
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