topic Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!! in Modeling

Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Stress Co_ — Tue, 23 May 2023 13:34:03 GMT

I have an object (Gable Louver) Solid Element Operated to a roof. I execute the operation ... and every thing looks peachy (3D window and Elevation windows). After opening a few views..... rebuilding from the model..... the SEO gets "lost" on 2 of my 6 louvers.

Any idea why this happens and more important... how do I correct it?

Thanks
Marc

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:31:07 GMT

Yeah, I've been having a similar problem. I'm trying to SEO the proper objects so my sections and elevations look correct and require least amount of tweaking. Unfortunately when objects 1 and 2 are SEOed, objects 1 and 3 loose their SEO.

Think it's a bug, but what do I know (other than what the problem appears to be). Worse thing is when SEO stops working altogether - my latest development. In 3d, define SEO, and... nothing happens

So... no answer from this side, just an addition to your question. Should I just wait for v10?

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Link — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:59:54 GMT

I have an object (Gable Louver) Solid Element Operated to a roof

Do your roofs have skylights in them by any chance?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Stress Co_ — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:13:38 GMT

Link wrote:

Do your roofs have skylights in them by any chance?

No... keeps happening to the same two objects,..... but not the others. I've deleted them and then replaced them with the same problem.

I've taken to re-SEO'ing (new word) just prior to updating to PM.

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Link — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:16:22 GMT

Can you upload a zipped module file of just the affected elements - better add the part to the zip file too!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Stephen Dolbee — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:16:42 GMT

Link wrote:
Do your roofs have skylights in them by any chance?

I have noticed when putting in skylights some roof edges in the skylight opening are cut horizontal, which causes the roof to degenerate. SEO's are then lost until those edges are changed to perp. or vert. I know that is not the problem with this case, but worth mentioning, I think.

Steve

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:03:50 GMT

Stephen wrote:
Link wrote:
Do your roofs have skylights in them by any chance?
I have noticed when putting in skylights some roof edges in the skylight opening are cut horizontal, which causes the roof to degenerate. SEO's are then lost until those edges are changed to perp. or vert. I know that is not the problem with this case, but worth mentioning, I think.

Steve

VERY WORTH MENTIONING..
Thanks, Steve, installed a skylight, after 20 frustrating minutes trying to force a wall to re-SEO to the common Roof operator I turned to ArchiTalk did a search, found your post, went back to AC and problem solved!! That only took me 6 minutes....Another symptom of Horizontality was that while one could view the interior from above the skylight, from below you could only see the underside of the roof.

Wally

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:37:24 GMT

I have also had problem with SEO's "getting lost" with some modifications I made to a mesh. In my case the operator also had a SEO preformed on it prior to initiating the operation on the mesh. I assumed it had something to do with the multiple SEO's.

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:23:22 GMT

Nesting or chaining SEO's can lead to problems. The best practice is to keep them as simple as possible. I have managed some pretty complex results, but I have also pushed them past the breaking point on occasion. One common way to break the SEO's is to use a complex result as an operator.

Re: Stay S.E.O., STAY ....Bad Dog!!

toofuerte — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:21:12 GMT

I have had similar problems. When I have a mesh of the site and I use thick slabs to cut out the building footprint by using SEO. a few times when opening up the file and going to the 3D window my SEO on the site has disappeared. I haven't changed the mesh or the SEO operator. I don't know why this would happen. It is frustrating when I have to go back and do it again... maybe there will be a fix in the next update or v10.