topic A Clue on Window Weirdness in Modeling

A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 13:30:42 GMT

Me again... I have determined at least one origin of the very weird window trim extensions, and am wondering a) if anyone else experiences this and b) if anyone has a way out. The windows were FINE until I SEO'd the wall they are in with the roof. Then, they instantly got goppered up. Thoughts? Suggestions? Thank you!

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

TomWaltz — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:24:57 GMT

This is definitely a bug, but I am not aware of a workaround.

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:31:30 GMT

Others have noticed strange things happening
to doors and windows after a wall participates
in an SEO.
In this context the work-around is to trim
the walls to roof.
Peter Devlin

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:40:21 GMT

Well, by Jove. That does do it, though I prefer SEOing things for all the reasons we love SEOs, I might just havta do it this way. Till release 10, presumably. THANK YOU!

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Djordje — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:08:23 GMT

Zobi wrote:
The windows were FINE until I SEO'd the wall they are in with the roof. Then, they instantly got goppered up. Thoughts? Suggestions? Thank you!

Trim to roof.

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:11:44 GMT

Yes, that does it, but w/ SEOing, I can move the roofs around and don't have to retrim...

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Djordje — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:13:44 GMT

Zobi wrote:
Yes, that does it, but w/ SEOing, I can move the roofs around and don't have to retrim...

... and have all kind of weird stuff happening, that you will spend more time troubleshooting than you need for re-trimming.

Theory might work, but what counts is the practice.

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:58:12 GMT

Have you tried SEOing before you place the window? This might change the outcome?.?

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:32:15 GMT

re: order of operations, doesn't make a difference. H'wever, it only happens to windows that I have selected "ganging" for.
re: throry/ practice, I absolutely agree. Esp for the novice, though, not always clear where to draw the line, eg where it is my mistake or where I have run into a bug in the program.
Thanks again,

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:41:43 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
This is definitely a bug, but I am not aware of a workaround.

A Workaround could be to place a "beam" as Trim piece on top and the bottom of the Window. This "beam" can be on a "3D Elevation" or 3D Bits layer that only displays in this view. ( Be aware of the intersection properties of this Layer as it relates to other views).

Of course, trim will have to be edited mannually with any window change. Trim to Roof seems the best option.

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Miklos Szovenyi Lux — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:24:34 GMT

Please send us the archive (.pla) zipped file just with the front wall with the windows and the 2 roofs with which you did the SEO to my email address: [removed by moderator - please use PM for contact info].

Thanks,
Miklos

Re: A Clue on Window Weirdness

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:21:11 GMT

The year-later follow-up...any news, any clues? This is a bug, huh?
I find that I often need to SEO a wall with a ganged window, not just to roofs always, but to other objects as well, and this bug is a source of feeling bugged.
Thank you---
John