topic Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak in Modeling

How many times do you have to implement a command to make it

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:30:05 GMT

Am I the only one this happens to? I start a command, like drag, rotate or adjust and the command doesn't start. I assume it starts and click as if I'm going to drag, rotate, adjust, etc. Since the command isn't started all I end up doing is deselecting. I find that I have to start the commmand two, three, or even FOUR times before it takes. And I have to take my eyes off the object I'm trying to manipulate in order to look at the status bar to verify that the command actually started. It's quite aggravating. It corrects itself after restarting the computer but I don't think it can possibly be the memory since we have a Gif of RAM in our computers.

Please tell me I'm not alone here. And if possible, let me in on the secret of making it work the first time.

Thanks.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Dave Jochum — Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:26:32 GMT

Alex--This happens to me also, though not to the degree you describe. One non-register is the most I get--the second attempt is always successful. Initially, I thought it was just me working too fast, i.e. not allowing the cursor to come to rest before clicking. That's not the case, however. I'm not sure it's an AC issue, though. The same thing happens in SketchUp. I don't notice it in other programs. I guess it's not an OS issue, as I'm Mac and you're PC, so...

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:58:33 GMT

Alex,

I have not experienced what you describe, but I have seen the button driven commands (like zoom in and out at the bottom of the window) slow to respond. This used to be especially true in Win2K, but I have noticed it a bit in OSX as well (seems to be no problem since AC8.1 & OSX 10.3).

You don't mention how you initiate the command; the keyboard, the tool bars, the menus. Do you have the same problem with all methods?

After a bit of reflection it occurs to me that it may be a display driver issue. It used to happen with my old PowerBook and ThinkPad but hasn't been a problem on my new PB.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:07:28 GMT

Yeah, this really only happens when I use the keyboard. I think. I don't use the menu or icons much AT ALL to start commands. Pretty much I have keyboard shortcuts set up for most everything I do so maybe the icons and menu commands do the same thing. I do work quickly, but I don't think that's it. Sometimes I think maybe I hit the wrong key or I didn't press it hard enough (dumb soft quiet keys. ). So I press it again, making sure I do it firm enough and that I press the right key. Still doesn't work.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:38:01 GMT

Have you tried another keyboard?

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Djordje — Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:48:23 GMT

Alex wrote:
Am I the only one this happens to? I start a command, like drag, rotate or adjust and the command doesn't start.

You are not. My cure is to hit hard - it hurts to hit a brand new keyboard so it cracks, but that is the only way.

My habit of right clicking comes in handy here ...

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:18:29 GMT

Alex wrote:
Am I the only one this happens to? I start a command, like drag, rotate or adjust and the command doesn't start.

You are not. My cure is to hit hard - it hurts to hit a brand new keyboard so it cracks, but that is the only way.

I also had this occur and concluded it was a poor keyboard (DELL wireless if that means anything). Since it wasn't my computer I asked the owner to get a new one - he hasn't yet.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:52:24 GMT

i think if you have a wireless keyboard or mouse ,it will happen. its better not to work with wireless accessories because when the battery loses the strenght you can not be sure of your commands to be worked out .

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:12:46 GMT

Alex wrote:
...this really only happens when I use the keyboard. I think.

I have this trouble as well at home and at the office...and I don't have a cordless keyboard...
I have always thought it was a worn <ctrl> key given the amount of use it gets...
I have learned to hit harder (usually out of frustration)...

For me...second time is the charm...

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:16:36 GMT

Richard wrote:
I have learned to hit harder (usually out of frustration)...

For me...second time is the charm...

I've always thought it was related to other application open as normal windows... when I minimize all the other running apps, I usually get rid of this disfunctionnality ! But it might be something else... Or maybe am I hitting the keyboard harder out of frustration also !

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:19:45 GMT

It's curious I have never had this problem on my Mac nor on any of my PCs. Perhaps the ThinkPad keyboard (or the IBM hardware) is more responsive. I have also used the ThinkPad with an external keyboard without problems, but it is an Apple keyboard (not your usual PC accessory).

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Laszlo Kocsis — Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:31:12 GMT

Dear All,

Those of you who experienced this problem, please tell me if McAfee Viruscan is installed on your computers or not. It seems that ArchiCAD 8.1 conflicts with an other running program, and the data I collected so far suggest McAfee Virusscan might be the one. If we could make sure, we could fix the problem as soon as possible.

Thank you for your help.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Djordje — Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:16:25 GMT

László wrote:
Those of you who experienced this problem, please tell me if McAfee Viruscan is installed on your computers or not.

Nope, Norton. Not much else runs in the background. Happened to me also on a no antivirus computer at work.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Laszlo Kocsis — Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:32:24 GMT

I was afraid...

If you don't mind to send me a screen capture of your installed programs list (Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs), please do it (email address below). I might find an other pattern, however, I'm not so confident now of this possibility.

thanks.

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:37:27 GMT

This is a big problem. I have been dumbfounded at the lack of discussion on it, some expert users say it happens to them which is the only reason I have not thrown my keyboard out the window / started to doubt my sanity.

Sure second or third time is a charm... but you have to check every time to see if the menus have grayed out and you can proceed with your command.... or you click to drag and it just deselects... double the amount of RSI, I'm waiting for news of the class action law suit out of (the U.S.) One of the most frustrating things i have come across... really, its so pervasive.

More constructively, I am running Sophos antivirus in the background, not much else. If I have two projects open ArchiCAD is more prone to do it. It gets worse as the day goes on, and a restarts often helps a lot. Ever since 8.0. It never happens in Plotmaker.

My setup is a 2.6Ghz P4 with only 512Mb of RAM running Windows XP with current updates. ArchiCAD 8.1.

Regards Simon

Re: How many times do you have to implement a command to mak

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:42:29 GMT

I may be a bit out of place in this discussion since all my client's are using Macs these days and I haven't needed a new PC since my 2001 vintage ThinkPad. But...

As I mentioned before I have never experienced any keyboard problems in Windows. I have used both Apple and IBM keyboards with my ThinkPads (as well as the internal ones) and I also used a Dell Pentium 4 Xeon with a Dell wired keyboard heavily at a client's office for a few months about 1 1/2 years ago. I wonder if it may be a hardware related problem or perhaps something to do with USB drivers.

Has anyone tried switching keyboards?