topic Re: Lots of hangs in 966 in Modeling

Lots of hangs in 966

James Murray — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:00:44 GMT

Are any other Mac people getting a LOT of rainbow ball since updating?

I'm getting a 30-second hang whenever I

• Switch from another app to AC,

• Let the screen (not the machine) go to sleep, and then wake it up,

• Paste between windows.

Big productivity hit.

...well, it seems to be confined to one file, but that file was definitely OK before.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

owen — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:07:37 GMT

I've been getting this alot on 817 AUS ... not updated yet.

I'm not sure how much of this has to do with our server .. it was there in v9 for us but nowhere near as bad as this. Copy/Paste is the main cause but we do get the other symptoms you mentioned (except the screen sleep one .. mines on a v long timer).

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Rick Thompson — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:44:00 GMT

Updating is awful.

I have my details in an external file. As soon as I update and look back (after a few min) it wants to re-update the same details. I think updating was better before.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966... BUG

Rick Thompson — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:54:39 GMT

yes, this is a new bug in my opinion. I update, then all is fine until I click off AC onto something else.. maybe check email.. then re-entering Ac the same drawings that were just updated go back to read "modified".

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

James Murray — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:49:14 GMT

James wrote:
hang

I think I've got it. It's our old friend "DisableCrossPlatformMountingFeatures" again.

I recall in beta there was a version that would start 'looking up' stuff when you switched back to AC, and the DCPMF was the culprit there. Rick, this might be the cause of your files' confusion about whether their external links are OK or not.

The fix is in the US technical resources, article 1068. It talks about 9, but 10 is the same.

If I'm wrong, I'll be posting the pink-faced guy, followed by the angry guy, in a few minutes.

But listen, if you are an all-Mac network, run this fix on general principles. It (the DCPMF) has been implicated in many quirky intermittent issues. (Such as 'Connection Failed but not really yada yada...')

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Rick Thompson — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:14:27 GMT

James.. that sounds promising, but would you repost the link as I get "can't find server".

thanks

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

James Murray — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:13 GMT

Rick wrote:
repost

grr

http://tr.graphisoftus.com/

That works.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Rick Thompson — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:34:15 GMT

found it... however, I am "technically" on vacation and leaving soon, so I want try the proceeder now and want leave feedback for about 2 weeks.. too many loose ends for now:)

thanks

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

SeaGeoff — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:26:21 GMT

James et al.,
does performing the DisableCrossPlatformMountingFeatures prevent ArchiCAD from opening or sharing files with the windows version? We have an all Mac network but I don't want to prevent our files from being opened on windows in the future. Thanks.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

James Murray — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:03:54 GMT

Geoff wrote:
prevent ArchiCAD from opening or sharing files with the windows version?

I'm pretty sure it has no effect on the cross-platform capability of the file itself. It's a preferences mod, which shouldn't affect the file.

I think it has to do with looking up networked stuff on Windows servers. Something that AC is doing 'on behalf' of the file, not something the file is doing, not something AC is doing to the file. I think.

...aha: Record 1003:

Q:Was getting Connection to server failed messages, so I edited my plist files to DisableCrossPlatformMountingFeatures. But we're in a mixed platform office using both MAC & PC.

How will this edit affect my ability to open projects from both platforms?

A: The only problem that can arise is when a file on the server is accessed once from a PC and then from a MAC and so vice versa, because the locations are saved in the file in only one format(MAC or Windows). Even in this situation however, the only problem that can occur is this:

- If during the file access AC cannot mount any additional locations then the user should mount these manually in the finder.

My take: No effect, except that AC won't be able to mount a Windows volume on its own. You would have to mount it yourself in the Finder.

IMO I could manage mounting my own servers, in exchange for AC not going catatonic whenever it thinks about libraries.

I would expect you could just as easily flip it back to <false/> if need be.

This 'feature' looks like a solution in search of a problem, and it's well documented to cause plenty of problems by itself. Disabled it will stay, though I'd like to hear other views.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

SeaGeoff — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:01:59 GMT

James wrote:
[IMO I could manage mounting my own servers, in exchange for AC not going catatonic whenever it thinks about libraries.

I agree completely. I take my PowerBook home and ArchiCAD tries to mount the office file server. At least it gives up quicker now. With AC8 I had to force quit

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Barry Kelly — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:25:46 GMT

Geoff wrote:
I take my PowerBook home and ArchiCAD tries to mount the office file server. At least it gives up quicker now. With AC8 I had to force quit

What, with a bucket of cold water?
Sorry I couldn't resist that one.
Barry.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Rick Thompson — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:00:10 GMT

James wrote:

I think I've got it. It's our old friend "DisableCrossPlatformMountingFeatures" again.

I recall in beta there was a version that would start 'looking up' stuff when you switched back to AC, and the DCPMF was the culprit there. Rick, this might be the cause of your files' confusion about whether their external links are OK or not.

I think(???) I made the appropriate change, at least when I open the plist file I did find "DisableCrossPlatformMountingFeatures" within the text.. however, I just opens a project, re-updated the files from the external detail file.. but reopen the same file and I get the same details "need" updating... sooooo.. argggg

I have noticed one commonality as to which of the details it wants to update (it doesn't mark them all), but just the details that have a dash in front of them... like -Fdn10pour. Perhaps a bad way to organize the names, but I have not had an issue before (the dash grouped a detail type). If I removed the dash, then I would now have to go back and.. arrggg again. The details that start with a "=" or a "_" don't have the same issue. Maybe best to just ignore the update call.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

Djordje — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:09:55 GMT

Geoff wrote:
I agree completely. I take my PowerBook home and ArchiCAD tries to mount the office file server.

Hope that both are in heat ...

OK, bad joke.

Re: Lots of hangs in 966

James Murray — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:58:19 GMT

Rick wrote:
just the details that have a dash in front of them... like -Fdn10pour.

Will wonders never cease.