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AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 13:28:33 GMT

Are there any improvements in AC11 Nemetschek?
Ich think nothing
Maybe first in AC 12

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

TomWaltz — Mon, 14 May 2007 13:58:03 GMT

I'm not sure what you're asking. Are there new features in AC11?

If you read the press releases, it sounds as though Nemetshek is planning to be kind of hands-off, leaving Graphisoft to mostly run on its own. I'm not sure we end users will ever notice the difference.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 14:12:59 GMT

Allplan is used widely in Germany. The perfect exchange of data between Allplan and AC must be very good thing.
Some goodies from Allplan can be also copied in AC (legally no problem).

AC 12 can be great.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 15:17:41 GMT

www.nemetschek.com IFC

Nemetschek seems to use IFC to transport information between ArchiCAD, Allplan and Vectorworks.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 08:04:41 GMT

There is a short interview with the VP of Graphisoft NA in Ralph Grabowski's upfrontezine newsletter today which gives some insight into the whole Archicad, Allplan, VW setup and a brief mention of AC11 new features...

(this is issue 518, the link will give a newer version in 2 weeks time)
scroll down to the 2nd story, don't use the headline link 'Update on Graphisoft' as it is wrongly linked...
http://www.upfrontezine.com/current.htm

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 13:03:59 GMT

I think, first up to AC12 we will see the developement with Allplan.

AC12 would be great.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 15 May 2007 13:47:36 GMT

AC12 would be great.

i think you are talking about AC13 !!

AC7 = great
AC9 = great
AC11 = Should be great
AC13 = Should be great

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 14:11:52 GMT

AC10 is great.
I will take at least 2 years to manage to work through with AC10
And than
AC 12 would be great with new drawing manage system.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 17:04:24 GMT

willsud wrote:
There is a short interview with the VP of Graphisoft NA in Ralph Grabowski's upfrontezine newsletter today which gives some insight into the whole Archicad, Allplan, VW setup and a brief mention of AC11 new features...

an anyone explain what this statement from the article means..

"Earlier ArchiCADs used hotlinks to propagate changes within floors; Release 11 now makes the changes vertically, between floors."

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 17:06:50 GMT

Previously you could hotlink only one floor to one floor. Now you can hotlink whole building. I cant wait for that actually.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:25:59 GMT

Jay wrote:
willsud wrote:
There is a short interview with the VP of Graphisoft NA in Ralph Grabowski's upfrontezine newsletter today which gives some insight into the whole Archicad, Allplan, VW setup and a brief mention of AC11 new features...
an anyone explain what this statement from the article means..

"Earlier ArchiCADs used hotlinks to propagate changes within floors; Release 11 now makes the changes vertically, between floors."

Go to:
http://www.graphisoft.de/produkte/archicad/archicad11/topeleven/

And look at number 6

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:37:25 GMT

or in English
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac11/action/

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:27:50 GMT

I think Hotlink is familiar with Allplan as far as I know ( I am not sure).
Allplan is great CAAD (AC is much better for Architects.).
In my opinion Allplan is more stabil than AC.
To have Allplan-user hier in Forum must be great. The wish-list can be better by Allplan-user.
AC12 can be great. AC11 is anyway too early.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 23:36:19 GMT

Archi wrote:
I think Hotlink is familiar with Allplan as far as I know ( I am not sure).

Hotlinked modules have been part of Archicad since at least v6.

Archi wrote:
Allplan is great CAAD (AC is much better for Architects.).
In my opinion Allplan is more stabil than AC.
To have Allplan-user hier in Forum must be great. The wish-list can be better by Allplan-user.

From this article: http://www.upfrontezine.com/current.htm

"In North America, Nemetschek plans to keep selling VectorWorks as the 3D surface modeler and ArchiCAD as the 3D parametric modeler. Allplan stays out of the market here, after failing to make a foothold back in 1999."

Since the majority of people on this forum are from North America, you may be out of luck.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Wed, 16 May 2007 04:21:21 GMT

Tom wrote:
Since the majority of people on this forum are from North America, you may be out of luck.

I don't know about that. There are a lot of Aussies and Brits, and quite a few Germans considering the language is English. Perhaps it is that the (we) Americans are just the loudest (typical yanks).

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Wed, 16 May 2007 08:14:44 GMT

Not sure if I quite follow what AU77 was on about but there are some US Allplan users left 'marooned' from when Nemetschek dipped it's toe in the water there with Allplan in, I think, 1999. Showing remarkable perseverance, some of them are still using the software.

There was a reseller as well until a few years ago but in the face of Nemetschek's - until now unspoken - decision to keep Allplan out of the US, they presumably struggled and have gone quiet.

There is an interesting insight into the thinking of the Nemetschek holding company in this commentary by Evan Yares on the spin off of Virtual Construction from Graphisoft...
http://www.evanyares.com/the-cad-industry/2007/4/24/virtual-construction.html

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Wed, 16 May 2007 11:59:17 GMT

I know, many good offices insist on using Allplan because they have used this CAD succesfully.
AC must investigate to take advantages from Allplan (officially!!).
It must help AC-user.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Djordje — Fri, 18 May 2007 17:55:04 GMT

Jay wrote:
willsud wrote:
There is a short interview with the VP of Graphisoft NA in Ralph Grabowski's upfrontezine newsletter today which gives some insight into the whole Archicad, Allplan, VW setup and a brief mention of AC11 new features...
an anyone explain what this statement from the article means..

"Earlier ArchiCADs used hotlinks to propagate changes within floors; Release 11 now makes the changes vertically, between floors."

It means exactly nothing. I emailed Ralph Grabowski for the explanation, no response since ...

Either a misquote or the gentleman who was interviewed did not do his homework.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Anonymous — Fri, 18 May 2007 19:18:01 GMT

Yes, interesting - the nemetschek.de webmaster queried the VP's statements also...

Allplan still has a distributor listed for the USA, although I have not heard from them for several years.

Re: AC 11 with Nemetschek?

Djordje — Fri, 18 May 2007 19:23:56 GMT

Apparently, Mr. Grabowski did check the contents with Graphisoft, and they confirmed it.

That's great ...