topic Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!! in Modeling

Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:46:01 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking at the Interior Elevation option for a hospital job, to do Room Data Drawings. Can I not put dimennsion on the drawing once it has been generated, I need to put height sizes for objects on walls, ie light switches, mirrors etc.......

Can anyone please give me some info or the best way to deal with this.

Trevor

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Petros Ioannou — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:38:08 GMT

You can select with the marquee everything in your interior elevation window copy and them paste it on the plan.Be aware that any vectorial hatch will be exploded to lines. You can also save the interior elevation as a pln file and place it as a module in your drawing for further detailing.This way you can update the interior elevation and save it over the pln file

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:46:41 GMT

Thanks for the reply.

Pity these veiws can not be saved into view sets.

I can save as PMK files and create a new plotmaker workbook, which would help if updated info. But the fact that I can not work on the generated views is very poor, ie dimensions,fills, etc.......(this maybe getting sorted as we speak)

The tool is very redundant for me, unless I do a very long winded work around.

Trevor

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:54:33 GMT

i use lines on elevations to keep dimension lines there as they were created earlier. it seems that you have to start line dimension process from the line you have drawn there and then continue to other objects. the dim line stays there as long as you keep the line you have drawn in the first place.
maybe you have to use some more lines to keep the dim.line values
i hope that helps

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:23:37 GMT

I have not found the interior elevetion tool to be usable. I recommend placing sections with limited depth and height for your interiors. I use the room number plus a letter in the ID field (i.e. INT101A, INT101B, INT324A, etc.) so that the drawings and views are easy to find in the lists.

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:56:56 GMT

Matthew wrote:
I have not found the interior elevetion tool to be usable. I recommend placing sections with limited depth and height for your interiors.

I agree. This system works well. And place an elevation marker in the room too.

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Djordje — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:56:47 GMT

HANIEL wrote:
Matthew wrote:
I have not found the interior elevetion tool to be usable. I recommend placing sections with limited depth and height for your interiors.
I agree. This system works well. And place an elevation marker in the room too.

Just fighting with some bathrooms, and agree wholeheartedly!

The only advantage of the Interior elevation (if and when it works) can be the foldout view of a curved wall ... but that does not happen (yet?)

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Michael — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:27:42 GMT

From the dialog in this post using AC 12 it is indicating the Interior elevation command is not usable.

spending the last 2 hours trying to make it usable, crashing a dozen times, I find myself here at this post.

The help files and archiwiki iindicate a usable sub-routine.

Can someone elaborate as to why the placing of ie does not work?

platform?

thank you .......... |:-)
MacBook Pro

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Richard Morrison — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:01:28 GMT

I actually haven't found the IE tool to be too bad.... It takes awhile to find the right marker and get it set properly, but once you do, it seems to work okay. For editing, it helps to set the elevations to be "Drawings," rather than "Automatic rebuild."

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

rocorona — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:13:16 GMT

Petros wrote:
[...].Be aware that any vectorial hatch will be exploded to lines. [...]

This has been a wish for a lot of time... and it still is .

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:38:57 GMT

The posts in this thread from 2004 back refer to a version of the Interior Elevation Tool that no longer exists. The current one is much more usable.

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Richard Morrison — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:40:51 GMT

Aaron,
Hadn't noticed that. Good catch!

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:34:51 GMT

Aaron wrote:
The posts in this thread from 2004 back refer to a version of the Interior Elevation Tool that no longer exists. The current one is much more usable.

Much more usable but still not perfect.
A wall passing through the limit line of an intereior elevation will still generate a view of everything beyond the limit line - as if the limit line wasn't there at all.

For a room bound by walls on all side it seems to be pretty good.
Just not so good when one or more sides of the room is open such as in a kitchen.

Barry.

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Richard Morrison — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:43:15 GMT

Barry wrote:
For a room bound by walls on all side it seems to be pretty good.
Just not so good when one or more sides of the room is open such as in a kitchen.

Any chance you've got "Add Bounded Area" selected in the Horizontal Range?

Re: Interior Elevations - Help,Hints & Tips Please!!!!!!

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:21:51 GMT

Richard wrote:
Any chance you've got "Add Bounded Area" selected in the Horizontal Range?

No, definitely set to "By limit lines".

On further investigation it seems to be only because the wall passing through the limit line is on an angle.
See the attached image.
Walls pependicular you can't see because they are at right angles to the view.

Maybe it is something to do with automatic folding out of curved walls that Djordje mentioned earlier in the post.

So it's not a big deal unless you have walls at angles.

Barry.