topic Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW in Modeling

HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:05:49 GMT

I haven't seen this before, and I can't seem to fix it.

I have set several elevation markers (the ones I previously wanted to have a background fill to..) and while they are still linked to my Model sections(I can open the elevation in navigator) i can't get the marker to show.

In display options, I have tried setting the section lines & Depth to show up, which they do, but no markers.

Also, when I select the marker on plan, there are no hotspots showing, although the info box confirms that I have a Marker selected.

Any and all suggestions that get me out of my fix would be wellcome.

Nathan Brauer

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:16:50 GMT

Try turning on all layers. Perhaps you put it on a different layer than you thought.

Grant

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

__archiben — Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:27:26 GMT

is it a custom marker head object? it sounds as though the problem lies within the marker head if you are getting the cut lines showing.

just a really silly thought: you have looked along the entire length of the line? if you have it set to 'elevation' in the settings dialogue you'll only get one marker centrally along the line, ('section' = a marker at each end . . ).

~/archiben

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:01:07 GMT

Are you getting a missing library parts report?

It is possible that the symbol is not in the loaded libraries. The info box will still have the name of the part even if it is not loaded.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:28:57 GMT

Here everyone, take a look yourself. The truly weird bit is that when I select the line, and change the marker from the NCS Elevation marker to the basic marker, it defaults back to the NCS marker. BTW neither marker shows up.

I am truly stumped. All comments have been helpful, though the markers remain MMIA(marker missing in action)

-Nathan Brauer

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:13:57 GMT

Nathan wrote:
I am truly stumped. All comments have been helpful, though the markers remain MMIA(marker missing in action)

Well, you've got me stumped, too, Nathan! Only spent a few minutes trying to track it down, but it is indeed very strange!

Here's the key to the mystery for me: if I alt-click the section line on the right (the no-marker guy), and then draw a new section line - the markers show. If I ctrl-alt-click the section line on the left, those markers show. That's telling me that the settings are valid and the missing lib parts are not part of the problem... and something else inside AC is corrupt about that section. I tried merging your file into a fresh file. Still the same thing.

Strange indeed! Hopefully we're both overlooking something simple.

If nobody else has an idea, do send the file to tech support.

Karl

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:45:52 GMT

Just a clue, no solution....yet.

The marker on the right is set to not show any marker on either end of the section line. When this is selected the marker still does not show but the zoom extents is much larger. Perhaps the marker got corrupted and is placed very far from the section line?

Also if the missing marker section is relocated closer to the origin the zoom extents is no longer a factor. Very strange.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Djordje — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:07:15 GMT

Every time I had a problem with a section:

1. Select the section
2. Cut
3. Paste

You can also save between 2. and 3. but to a new file name, just in case ...

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:24:05 GMT

funny thing...same problem but only when i installed the 10-10 upgrade/fix. all elevation, section arrows are missing and there is no way to get it back... a clean install without the 10-10 pack will have this problem solved. i think it's a bug. any ideas?

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Link — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:46:25 GMT

I can see the markers just fine, but it's still buggy.

The S/E on the left has it's markers set to Elevation, so it is only showing one marker. The alarming thing here is that this marker cannot be moved again via the pet pallete. Nor can it be switched back to Section and back to Elevation just to show one marker. There's a bug right there. It's like it's getting the Section functionality mixed up with the Elevation functionality.

How did you get that S/E to have just one marker on the end? Did you use the pet pallete to move the marker to the end, or did you set the Marker set to Section and only visible at one end?

Similarly, the S/E on the right is set to Section but without any markers, so it's showing up correctly, but when it is changed to Elevation, no marker is appearing. And if it is set to Section with any variation of marker positions, and changed back to Elevation, there's no way to have it appear on one end. Even by pet palette, which is usually doable when set to Elevation, so it's the same problem.

Either way it's definitely a bug that is either related just to these S/E's or to a general corruption in your file. You can see by copying these S/E's into a new file that they look and continue to work just fine.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:14:57 GMT

gentlemen, please take a look at this file and see if it is user error.
i cant seem to be able to get the arrowheads to show on the section/elevation markers. as i mentioned before, it only happened after i installed the 1010 update. what am i missing
BTW, any ideas on how to quicly reduce a file size for email? thanks a lot folks...

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Link — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:34:09 GMT

Have you tried changing the Markers to Section ? Works for me.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:30:05 GMT

Link wrote:
Have you tried changing the Markers to Section ? Works for me.

Cheers,
Link.

thank you for the reply...i did try it before without avail.
see image...it seems that the arrowhead is missing from the lib altogether??

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Link — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:41:24 GMT

There is something very wrong with your file(s) there. Is this a Teamwork file? A migrated AC9 file? Have you tried doing this from a New & Reset (using the provided ArchiCAD 10.tpl)?

And you're definitely on 1010 right?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:33:11 GMT

Link wrote:
There is something very wrong with your file(s) there. Is this a Teamwork file? A migrated AC9 file? Have you tried doing this from a New & Reset (using the provided ArchiCAD 10.tpl)?

And you're definitely on 1010 right?

Cheers,
Link.

yes, 1010. i have opened the template from the AC website for release 10. same result.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Link — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:50:55 GMT

Aye Corumba!

If it were me, I would start removing ArchiCAD preferences, and failing that would reinstall AC. But that is totally up to you of course.

Either way, I would definitely submit it as a bug report to your reseller.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:56:57 GMT

Link wrote:
Aye Corumba!

If it were me, I would start removing ArchiCAD preferences, and failing that would reinstall AC. But that is totally up to you of course.

Either way, I would definitely submit it as a bug report to your reseller.

Cheers,
Link.

that's what i've been thinking... if by any chance you run across a solution please let me know. i'll keep this forum posted on developments.
thanks a lot for your help.
btw"caramba"

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Richard Morrison — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:29:02 GMT

This is probably no help, but I just discovered that in a plan I'm working on (started in the prior build), that I cannot change from a section marker to an elevation marker. They are all stuck at section markers.

A New & Reset fixes this, but doesn't do any good in the current plan.

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Richard Morrison — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:41:54 GMT

Follow-up on my problem, which I can only ascribe to a "senior moment". Somehow I forgot that the Model View Options now also controls the section/elevation markers and if set to "Normal", you won't EVER be able to get a Section Marker to display as an Elevation Marker, even though set as one. ( I think the nomenclature here is less than obvious.) Set it to "as in settings" and problem went away. ( I appreciate having a great reseller to whack the side of my head on occasion.)

Could the Model View Options setting be a culprit in the original poster's problem?

Re: HELP! ELEVATION MARKERS DON'T SHOW

Link — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:19:32 GMT

But for the obscure MVO setting! That would explain the problem in the original file, but not necessarily the second one.

Hopefully that fixed it. Regardless, isn't it about time this setting was dropped? Does anyone actually use it to override the S/E settings on a per-view basis?

Cheers,
Link.