topic Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours in Modeling

I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:45:36 GMT

It just closed..... I don't think I hit quit, but if I had it should have asked me to save. I didn't get a crash notice or a bug report..... nothing....

All of the sudden I have a major concern with AC10!

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

James Murray — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:49:59 GMT

Anything in the autosave folder? If so, look at this. Good luck,

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:03:04 GMT

James wrote:
Anything in the autosave folder? If so, look at this. Good luck,

That's exactly what I did.... Unfortunately, I reopened the file hoping it would trigger the autosave, but it didn't I then quickly duplicated that folder and changed a .T file to a .PLN file (trying to pick a good file creation time)..... I got lucky it appears I got all but about 5-10 minutes back.....

Still..... I'm very concerned about this. I've lost almost nothing in Archicad, ever..... That part always seemed to work pretty well.... Now I'm not so sure... I'll have to train myself to save more often... Before, it wasn't as big a deal because I was saving fairly often just to update plotmaker....

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

James Murray — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:07:51 GMT

SteveC0013 wrote:
I'm very concerned about this. I've lost almost nothing in Archicad, ever.....

It has happened to us a small handful of times over several years: it's rare. Screws falling out, as you say. Saving is always good though...

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:13:28 GMT

IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN........ I think it might be a bad text block......

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:24:18 GMT

TWO MORE TIMES....

of trying to copy/paste the block or text before I just deleted and re-typed it..... It seems to be working now..

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

James Murray — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:43:38 GMT

Ouch...at least you were able to trace it...

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:01:53 GMT

Steve,

sounds like a similar problem to one i had very recently, posted a question about it in the Installation section.

ArchiCAD randomly started shutting down, with no warning, no error message, no autosave etc just as you describe. I generated some of my own error reports which got sent through to Hungary and they reported a problem with my graphics card driver - it was actually too up-to-date and i had to downgrade it.
If you havent got the latest update for your graphics card i would update it and if you have, try downgrading back a version, worked a treat for me.

HTH,
Richard.

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:08:49 GMT

rfoxley wrote:
Steve,

sounds like a similar problem to one i had very recently, posted a question about it in the Installation section.

ArchiCAD randomly started shutting down, with no warning, no error message, no autosave etc just as you describe. I generated some of my own error reports which got sent through to Hungary and they reported a problem with my graphics card driver - it was actually too up-to-date and i had to downgrade it.
If you havent got the latest update for your graphics card i would update it and if you have, try downgrading back a version, worked a treat for me.

HTH,
Richard.

I'm pretty sure it was just a corrupt text block..... it happens...

thanks

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

andrewzarb — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:30:25 GMT

It's very sad when it happens, I always tell people that it's a good habit to save often. I learned that before ArchiCAD had autosave, when I lost about six hours Work!

Since then I've always saved, anytime I get up from my desk, I save, anytime someone asks me a question, I save anytime I know my hands will be away from the mouse form half a minute, I save.

Autosave is good but you can't always rely on it, unfortunately.

So, save whenever you think about it.

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:00:14 GMT

It'd be nice if Autosave actually SAVED instead of created an index file (or whatever) so if you did crash, you could just open the .pln and everything would be where you left it as of the last autosave before the crash. The autosave sometimes gets corrupted.

Maybe some of you gurus could write a little script that would File>Save every 30 min or so?

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:18:21 GMT

There are times when I have a file open that I don't want it to "save" and overwrite the existing. Also, on my current setup "saving" takes more than a few seconds especially when the job gets more complex. I don't know how autosave saves it without stopping everything else like a regular "save" does, but I wouldn't like an automatic save to stop everything else whilst saving....

If I had a wish, it would be that the autosave file were more obviously a .pln file. Admittedly, now that I know, it doesn't really matter to me as much anymore...

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:18:51 GMT

Ive lost work quite a few times due to the terrible set out of the save popup screen. Instead of having 'save' on the left side as the first button and 'dont save' on the right side - as one would expect - it has 'dont save' as the first button and its also the largest one! How stupid is that! Ive closed loads of drawings and hit the wrong button thereby losing work.

And the autosave facility is also terrible - it only keeps the last drawing you saved. Why on earth doesnt it keep the last ten saves in succession? What the point in an autosave that is so restrictive? I have better save facilities in £30 computer games that I play in my spare time! And how much does ArchiCAD cost again?

The whole save process needs some work in ArchiCAD thats for sure! How can simple problems like this get all the way to release 10?

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:55:35 GMT

If you want a hard save every so often, there are keyboard shortcut utilities you can use (I use one called Keyboard Express).
You can set it to invoke a CTRL+C keyboard sequence in ArchiCAD, which in effect causes ArchiCAD to do a hard save. You can set it to do this every x minutes.

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

andrewzarb — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:34:43 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
You can set it to invoke a CTRL+C keyboard sequence

I think Laszlo may mean CTRL+S

Re: I just lost the last 1 1/2 hours

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:54:33 GMT

Oh, yes, you are right.
Sorry about that.