topic Re: Two story window in Modeling

Two story window

Tom Krowka — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:23:37 GMT

I have a big window that is half on the third floor, half on the second floor. Where do I put the window so it cuts out of both floors. Or how else do you handle that situation. Make an empty opening in one of the floors?

Re: Two story window

Link — Mon, 17 May 2004 21:13:46 GMT

Make an empty opening in one of the floors?

Yes! For example you could put the window in the upper wall and an empty opening in the lower wall - one that matched the size and location of the window. You could maybe consider copying and pasting the entire wall and simply switching out the window and dragging it up into place.

To get the window represented on the lower floor plan, simply put in a very short window (say a couple of inches high) with the same width as the multi-story window, and give it a negative sill height so that it is hidden under the wall, in the slab. If it still appears in section/elevation/3D, then you can put in a temporary flat roof at the bottom of your wall and trim your roof to it, making sure that Doors & Windows is ticked on.

How's that for a workaround!?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Two story window

Tom Krowka — Mon, 17 May 2004 21:51:16 GMT

That is quite the workaround. Too bad there is no choice of "what floor to show this on"......both stories. But then you'd show two windows in elev.......never mind.

I'll use it anyway.

Thanks

Re: Two story window

Anonymous — Mon, 17 May 2004 22:50:51 GMT

Tom wrote:
That is quite the workaround. Too bad there is no choice of "what floor to show this on"......both stories. But then you'd show two windows in elev.......never mind.

I'll use it anyway.

Thanks

This is a long standing wish. It has been the same tedious workaround for years when all we need (in most cases) is the ability to show walls on multiple floors. Maybe in AC9?

Re: Two story window

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 03:17:50 GMT

Showing walls on floors above/below/all stories like slabs & objects has been long requested and a high priority need.

Another workaround is to place the window in a wall the exact width of the window and and bottom elevation at the bottom of the window. I usually place it on the upper floor so that the top of wall can be trimmed to the roof. In the lower floor, place a wall w/ no fill & line weight matchiing window trim where the top of wall would be at the bottom of wall w/ window. Copy the wall with the window, paste in floor below, explode to create a group of lines. I find this easier to update, since you can drag the wall w/ window around in elevation/section/3D window or change the height. If the window changes, simply stretch and/or copy/paste/explode again.

Yet another way: Put same wall on both floors; hide one in layer combo for elevations, sections, and 3D views.

What a pain!

Re: Two story window

Djordje — Tue, 18 May 2004 06:00:27 GMT

Tom wrote:
I have a big window that is half on the third floor, half on the second floor. Where do I put the window so it cuts out of both floors. Or how else do you handle that situation. Make an empty opening in one of the floors?

Now this is upstream from anybody else, but I would put each half of it where it belongs. Depends on the type of a winow, really - I suppose it is something like glazing or a curtain wall - and you can turn off the bottom and top mullions.

Quite different from a case where you have, let's say, a high door or a window in a wall that is half its height, and another wall on top (same storey or not) with different properties; in this case, and empty opening is the cure. Best aligned in 3D fat marquee of course ...

Re: Two story window

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 18:03:27 GMT

I think if you don't build second floor's wall and make first floor's wall in two stories' high, than you can make window in between two floors.

Re: Two story window

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 19:10:02 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Now this is upstream from anybody else, but I would put each half of it where it belongs. Depends on the type of a winow, really - I suppose it is something like glazing or a curtain wall - and you can turn off the bottom and top mullions.

Good point Djordje. This is the best method when the window can be represented by the combination of upper and lower parts.

Re: Two story window

Link — Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:29 GMT

I think if you don't build second floor's wall and make first floor's wall in two stories' high, than you can make window in between two floors.

Ouch! That's bad advice! This will not show the window on both stories!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Two story window

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 20:38:30 GMT

Link wrote:
I think if you don't build second floor's wall and make first floor's wall in two stories' high, than you can make window in between two floors.
Ouch! That's bad advice! This will not show the window on both stories!

Cheers,
Link.

Not if you don't want the window to show on both stories. It's rare but I've had it happen. Of course the wall is another matter...

Re: Two story window

vfrontiers — Thu, 20 May 2004 05:22:43 GMT

Skimmed through here so forgive any duplication!..

I just did this on a house with a HUGE DEN WINDOW... 12' tall...

1. Create 1st Floor Walls to 9-1 (to match other walls and plates (no real magic here).
2. Put the WINDOW in the wall and let it "hang over" the top.
3. Create upper half of wall on the 2nd floor and place the SAME window.
4. Offset sill to match lower window.
5. TURN OFF 3d and 2d (optional)... In my particular case, it was an ARCH TOP WINDOW. Keep in mind that GS did go through the trouble of scripting in the 3d and 2d disable just for this reason.. The WALL HOLE will remain (and match the lower floor, obviously)...
6. I DON'T show the 2d on the upper floor AND I tag the window w/ an asterisk as that is my "filter" for the schedule.

a. I don't like splitting the window in two, as it has potential to screw up the schedule.
b. In most instances I would try to make the 1st floor wall tall enough to accept the entire window then make the 2nd story wall really short. Just doesn't work in all cases for 3d clean-up
c. I need the wall on the 2nd floor to complete the plan anyway (though it is sometimes "hatched" over for graphics).

My 2 pennies,