topic Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9 in Modeling

Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9>11

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:25:08 GMT

Hi everyone - I have the following problem:
I got used to the 2D view of this particular window
W Emergency Escape
as it is in ArchiCAD 8 - you can see it on the lower side of the picture.
It is much more understandable the way it is in AC8 - sliding panels seen clearly.
I use it a lot and I was greatly disappointed to find
that this particular 2D view is not possible in ArchiCAD 9.
The detailed view in AC9 is too overburdened, while the simple view is
too poor - as seen in the upper side of the picture.

My question is:
what is better to do
- to try to isolate the window from AC8 as a separate library object
- or to try to modify the 2D script of the AC9 window

In both cases I would need your professional guidance to be able to do it.
If there is another solution I'd be glad to use it.
I could just stick to AC8 library but I'd like to use AC9 library
and if I load them both there are too many duplications and possible problems.
I'd appreciate any ideas that you have. Thank you.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:47:00 GMT

The way it looks depends on the 2D Detail Level parameter found under the Options parameter group.
In the attached image the upper one is set to Detailed, the lower one is set to Scale Sensitive.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:33:07 GMT

Yes indeed - thank you for your input - altho that is exactly the overburdened look that I mentioned.
I hope you would agree that these tiny lines can be seen clearly only zoomed
on the computer screen - printed in 1:100 it's just too messy to see the panels.
While what we have in AC8 can be read on paper clearly as to see the sliding panels.
My main concern is to be obvious that this is a sliding window - that's all.
AC9 does not give me that option. Is there a way to change that?

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:34:03 GMT

I am afraid only if you modify the 2D Script of the Object.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:17:46 GMT

Could you or anyone else willing be so kind to guide me through that process? I'm sorry but I have no knowledge in this matter.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:39:20 GMT

Making the two unnecessary horizontal lines disappear is relatively easy. Find the following lines in the 2D Script of the Object:

LINE2 -a/2-osl-rotf2*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarl), 0,
a/2+osr+rotf2*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarr)+um2, 0
LINE2 -a/2+gs_frame_width, -gs_frame_thk/2,
a/2-gs_frame_width, -gs_frame_thk/2
LINE2 -a/2-osl-rotf1*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarl), -gs_frame_thk,
a/2+osr+rotf1*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarr)+um1, -gs_frame_thk

Modify it to the following:

LINE2 -gs_frame_width/2, 0,
a/2+osr+rotf2*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarr)+um2, 0
LINE2 -a/2+gs_frame_width, -gs_frame_thk/2,
a/2-gs_frame_width, -gs_frame_thk/2
LINE2 -a/2-osl-rotf1*gs_frame_thk*TAN(calpha+cbetarl), -gs_frame_thk,
gs_frame_width/2, -gs_frame_thk

Modifying the structure (Frame and Sill thicknesses and widths are a lot more complicated so I would not get into that.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:45:08 GMT

Hey, thank you very much, Laszlo!
Your script really did it - that's exactly the change I was looking for
and it is absolutely enough for me.
Thank you again for your help - I really appreciate it.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:49 GMT

Your're welcome.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9>11

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:51:06 GMT

Hello again - so here I am with ArchiCAD 11 and I have the same problem.
Could someone be so kind to help me change the 2d looks [in say 1:50] of that window to be the way described below?
Thank you.

Re: Window 2D View - ArchiCAD 8>9>11

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:16:27 GMT

Nobody knows? Maybe I was not clear enough:

Is there a way in ArchiCAD 11 to have this window - W Emergency Escape that looks like that:

to look like that? [the way it looked in ArchiCAD 8]

This way is much more clear it's a sliding window.
It can't be too hard! I just need 2 lines removed... Anyone - please?