topic Re: filleting an arc and a line in Modeling

filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:11:33 GMT

I can fillet two lines, but I can't fillet an arc and a line or two arcs

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:35:10 GMT

I have wished AC could do this too (it can't). You should add this one to the wish list

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 18:26:51 GMT

Select the arc and line. Use the intersect tool or trim the ends so both endpoints meet. Activate any tool except the arrow tool, click on the corner. Pet palette pops up, select the fillet option.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Aussie John — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:28:57 GMT

Alex wrote:
Select the arc and line. Use the intersect tool or trim the ends so both endpoints meet. Activate any tool except the arrow tool, click on the corner. Pet palette pops up, select the fillet option.

WOW tip of the year

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:59:45 GMT

VERY COOL ALEX! Definitely tip o' the month material.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Dwight — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 23:42:36 GMT

And I nominate this discovery for "Most-Annoying-Just-Waiting-To-Be-Discovered-Eureka-Moment-of-All-ArchiCAD-Time." We should call it the "Mouse Quiver of the Century" describing the erotic and joyful pulse of amazement that travels up the arm when the discovery actually works. My arm, anyways.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 00:40:18 GMT

Alex wrote:
Select the arc and line. Use the intersect tool or trim the ends so both endpoints meet. Activate any tool except the arrow tool, click on the corner. Pet palette pops up, select the fillet option.

Way to go, Alex! What other treasures lie hidden.... 😉

Off topic (lines only here - not arcs), but same pet palette: if you do the same thing to two lines, you get the Fillet/Chamfer Radius dialog - but there isn't a means to select which of fillet or chamfer you want ... you just get a fillet (matching the pet palette icon). It looks like GS simply used the same input dialog as for Line Extras ... and that the implication of Chamfer in the dialog is a cosmetic error. But, maybe I'm missing something?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Dave Jochum — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 02:27:30 GMT

Alex wrote:
Select the arc and line. Use the intersect tool or trim the ends so both endpoints meet. Activate any tool except the arrow tool, click on the corner. Pet palette pops up, select the fillet option.

You can also have the arrow tool activated and select the last option in the pet pallette (switches from transformation to modification), then select the fillet option.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Dwight — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 02:32:17 GMT

Okay - Mouse Quiver "Corollary Tipette"

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Djordje — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:38:22 GMT

Alex wrote:
Select the arc and line. Use the intersect tool or trim the ends so both endpoints meet. Activate any tool except the arrow tool, click on the corner. Pet palette pops up, select the fillet option.

Gone to Tips&tricks, of course ... hope he has the sun deck for all the chairs 😉

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Link — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 00:05:16 GMT

Great tip Alex - the hits just keep on coming don't they?

With regard to Karl's reply - GS has definitely cut a corner here (pardon the pun!). This dialog must be their standard for any fillet/chamfer. I first noticed this when I tried chamfering a corner of any polygonal element, (roof, slab, mesh, zone, fill). Even though the fillet icon is what we select in the pet palette, the fillet/chamfer dialog is what appears next.

It also seems to me that the intersect command will work with arcs and/or lines (but not polylines or splines), yet the fillet and chamfer commands will work only with lines. Furthermore, all of these commands are under the *Line* Extras menu, which contradicts the logic (and confuses new users who have been using) the 'Line' flyout tool in their unextended tool bar. These commands can also be used on walls - just don't try it in the 3D window. Maybe it's because we won't find any (2D) lines in there?. As mentioned, some of these commands can be used on polygonal shapes and all of them should be incorporated into polygonal editing more uniformly. Line Extras? Hmmmm....

GS needs to allow us to intersect, fillet and chamfer all lines, arcs, polylines and splines, walls with comparable geometry and all polygonal shapes. They should also either have separate fillet and chamfer dialog boxes, or preferably a radio button on their existing fillet/chamfer dialog box, which will save them adding a new icon in the pet palette. It just may mean they need to change it's appearance.

Lastly, I recommend to all the new users I train to assign Ctrl+I to Lines Extras>Intersect. It's set to Teamwork>Sign In by default, but even if you do use Teamwork, you are bound to intersect many more times a day, than you will be signing into a Teamwork Project.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:30:03 GMT

Thanks all for the warm nominations for tip of the month here, but with regret I must decline nomination for this tip. I appreciate that you all have been wanting this feature for a long time and I appreciate the thanks for telling you about it. But I must take a stand here. I strongly believe that the tip of the month contest should limit itself to new uses for existing tools (thinking outside of the box), not for telling everybody about existing tools that should have been made known by Graphisoft. I cannot in good conscience accept nomination for an award I don't believe should win. That would make me a hypocrite, and I do hate hypocrites. Some TOTM winners sadly are tips any one of us could have found, had we looked hard enough or in the right place. This feature is an existing one, and it's right there smack dab in front of your face. All of you would have found it eventually. Also, I'm not the only ArchiCAD-Talker than knew (and posted) of this feature. So thanks for the thoughts, but please, not this tip. I have my pride to think about.

My other tips are game though. Especially for tip of the year. I'm still waiting on that chair. I have the umbrella though. I love it. It's a very very nice umbrella.

Re: filleting an arc and a line

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:32:32 GMT

Dwight wrote:
And I nominate this discovery for "Most-Annoying-Just-Waiting-To-Be-Discovered-Eureka-Moment-of-All-ArchiCAD-Time." We should call it the "Mouse Quiver of the Century" describing the erotic and joyful pulse of amazement that travels up the arm when the discovery actually works. My arm, anyways.

That award I will take. Thank you very much Dwight!