topic Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS) in Modeling

Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Fri, 28 May 2004 18:24:22 GMT

How can I type DMS? Is there any tools I used to insert these data?

ac7r3/xphome

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Djordje — Fri, 28 May 2004 18:29:21 GMT

lsid wrote:
How can I type DMS? Is there any tools I used to insert these data?

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

vfrontiers — Mon, 31 May 2004 20:18:53 GMT

also note that when typing DMS into the Coordinate box [the only place you can type it into, afaik] you simply use SPACES instead of all the trick characters....

15 23 54

And, with SURVEYOR's units

n 15 23 54 w

Just in case you needed to know.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)- I can't type in

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 02:38:34 GMT

i still can't seem to be able to TYPE the degree minute seconds to my data sheet. what djorde shown is when i had to select the angle but i am not doing that. i just want to type in the bearing in dms format.

can anyone please help...desperate!

ac7r3/xphome

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)-alternative

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 05:32:34 GMT

i can't do it in archicad...so i did it in microsoft excel and export to pmk.
i am guessing that archicad doesn't have the data capabalities and rely on export.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)- I can't type in

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:42:53 GMT

lsid wrote:
i still can't seem to be able to TYPE the degree minute seconds to my data sheet. what djorde shown is when i had to select the angle but i am not doing that. i just want to type in the bearing in dms format.

can anyone please help...desperate!

ac7r3/xphome

As I recall the copy/paste method is the only way to get the degree character (for now anyway) in ArchiCAD for Windows since it doesn't recognize those silly character codes. (Of course Mac users can easily type ° and ± and other characters with standard key combinations )

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)- I can't type in

stefan — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:16:58 GMT

Matthew wrote:
lsid wrote:
i still can't seem to be able to TYPE the degree minute seconds to my data sheet. what djorde shown is when i had to select the angle but i am not doing that. i just want to type in the bearing in dms format.

can anyone please help...desperate!

ac7r3/xphome
As I recall the copy/paste method is the only way to get the degree character (for now anyway) in ArchiCAD for Windows since it doesn't recognize those silly character codes. (Of course Mac users can easily type ° and ± and other characters with standard key combinations )

You can do so on Windows too:
"Alt+0176" for ° (which is a default key by the way)
"Alt+0216" for Ø (the diamter sign)
"Alt+0177" for ± (the plus-minus sign)
etc...
And it works inside texts in ArchiCAD too.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)- I can't type in

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:17:32 GMT

stefan wrote:
You can do so on Windows too:
"Alt+0176" for ° (which is a default key by the way)
"Alt+0216" for Ø (the diamter sign)
"Alt+0177" for ± (the plus-minus sign)
etc...
And it works inside texts in ArchiCAD too.

I couldn't remember if you could type the codes into AC or not. Thanks for the info.

I still find it much easier to type:

"Option 8" for •
"Option Shift 8" for °
"Option =" for ? (oh well, I guess the web doesn't like the single slash "not equal to" symbol)
"Option Shift = " for ±
"Option o" for ø
"Option Shift o" for Ø

and so on...

than it is to remember all those numeric codes.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Link — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:24:05 GMT

You can utilize your Character Map (Start> All Programs> Accessories> System Tools> Character Map) to copy any kind of character you want. This is pretty much the same thing as Stefan said, except with a pretty GUI. Mac has the same thing, I just can't reall what it's called right now.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

stefan — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:32:47 GMT

Link wrote:
You can utilize your Character Map (Start> All Programs> Accessories> System Tools> Character Map) to copy any kind of character you want. This is pretty much the same thing as Stefan said, except with a pretty GUI. Mac has the same thing, I just can't reall what it's called right now.

Cheers,
Link.

Now you spoiled my secret!!! You didn't actually think that I had all these symbols in my head, did you?

Well, when you are working in a drawing and constantly need these symbols, you start remembering them. Not much more difficult then "command+option+shift+4"-like shortcuts.

(This particular shortcut was for taking a snapshot of the screen from a rectangle you can point, IIRC. I had to search that one into the help system, while I was working on a Mac and fell from my chair from wrist-pain. Now that is not friendly at all... 😉 )

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:01:41 GMT

Link wrote:
You can utilize your Character Map (Start> All Programs> Accessories> System Tools> Character Map) to copy any kind of character you want. This is pretty much the same thing as Stefan said, except with a pretty GUI. Mac has the same thing, I just can't reall what it's called right now.

Cheers,
Link.

On the Mac there are the Keyboard Viewer and the Character Palette which are exceeding cool

I made a nice screen shot of them but AC-Talk is refusing to let me attach it

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Link — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:10:24 GMT

Isn't there a 500x500 pixel, 256kb limit?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:38:09 GMT

I thought it was just a file size limit. I'll try something smaller pixel-wise.

Yup, you appear to be correct Link. This image didn't work until I got it under 500x500, though I see no mention of this limit in the Allowed Extensions and Sizes page.

This seems far too restrictive a limitation (and a terrific waste of time figuring it out) many screen shots need to be larger than this too be meaningful. I guess it's time for a trip to the "Forum Related Issues"

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:39:08 GMT

And here is the Keyboard Palette...

It changes as modifiers are pressed to display the available characters (my screen capture wouldn't work with a modifier key pressed so it is too much trouble to show).

I am familiar with the Win2K version. Is XP better?

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:03:42 GMT

thank you to all......i really appreciate it especially in times of desperado!

i haven't tried using the character map in archicad but the INSERT/SYMBOL in microsoft excel surely helped to do the bearing table for my site plan.

i can't' find the Character Map in the Program/Accessories/System Tools. i'm using xp home....help!

ac7r3/xphome

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Link — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:14:11 GMT

Hmmmmm. Well that's not what I remembered. Did this change with a later release of Mac OSX? It was called something different too. What you have shown is obviously much better and looks like the perfect solution. For future reference, how do you access these?

I have attached an image of what XP's Character Map looks like. Of course each map is different for different fonts, and if you select one, it will show the keyboard codes (look familiar Stefan? Sorry about blowing your cover! ). For anyone using these for the first time, you can only use these 'alt+' codes with the Numeric Keypad - not the numbers across the top of your keyboard, so make sure your NumLock is on!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Link — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:22:55 GMT

i can't' find the Character Map in the Program/Accessories/System Tools. i'm using xp home....help!

You probably don't have it loaded. You will need to go to Start>Control Panel>Add or Remove Programs>Add or Remove Windows Components> select Accessories and Utilities from the list and hit the 'Details...' button. Then select Accessories form the list and hit the 'Details...' button. Place a checkmark next to Character Map from the list, then hit all the OK's.

Then it will appear as mentioned earlier.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:54:48 GMT

Link wrote:
Hmmmmm. Well that's not what I remembered. Did this change with a later release of Mac OSX? It was called something different too. What you have shown is obviously much better and looks like the perfect solution. For future reference, how do you access these?

This is new to Panther (along with Font Book) and is one of the coolest of many cool features. It is easiest to get at by enabling the input menu in the International System Preferences as shown in the attached screenshot.

I have attached an image of what XP's Character Map looks like. Of course each map is different for different fonts, and if you select one, it will show the keyboard codes (look familiar Stefan? Sorry about blowing your cover! ). For anyone using these for the first time, you can only use these 'alt+' codes with the Numeric Keypad - not the numbers across the top of your keyboard, so make sure your NumLock is on!

Cheers,
Link.

The XP Character Map looks pretty much as I remember the one in Win2K. Perhaps Longhorn will have copies of the cool stuff in Panther.

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:56:13 GMT

For anyone who's curious...

Here is the input menu...

Re: Degree, Minutes, Seconds ( DMS)

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:57:22 GMT

For anyone who's curious...

And here is Font Book...