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    <title>topic Re: dopey border in plotmaker in Modeling</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Zobi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I recall reading somewhere that the blue line doesn't print, and you were right on the printer settings.  We had 2 solid, rapid-fire days of training.  We (my office) are all a bit mystified, but I'm generally the one who is posting the questions.  I recognize they are not particularly advanced questions...but I'm hoping to get there!&lt;BR /&gt;
Many thanks--&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

How was the training? Who did it? Do you feel like you could at least use the program? (even if you cannot set up templates/etc from scratch)&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I'm curious, since I often wonder about who does the Archicad training, and what people think of it. To me, that's the way to expand the product user base: solid training with strong follow-up so people can stand on their own quickly.</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:43:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-10-17T15:43:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63166#M31964</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;All of our plots come out of plotmaker with this dopey double-line border around the page, at what looks like the margins (about 1/4", working on 11x17 output).  I can't for the life of me figure out how to turn it OFF.  Anyone?&lt;BR /&gt;
Many thanks...&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:45:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-14T01:45:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63167#M31965</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Zobi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;All of our plots come out of plotmaker with this dopey double-line border around the page, at what looks like the margins (about 1/4", working on 11x17 output).  I can't for the life of me figure out how to turn it OFF.  Anyone?&lt;BR /&gt;
Many thanks...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Borders of the layout or of the placed drawings?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
If layout, open your Master and remove any borders you don't like.&lt;BR /&gt;
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If drawings, open drawing settings, untick the border tickbox.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:46:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Djordje</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-14T04:46:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63168#M31966</link>
      <description>it must be in layout, but the only border on the master is a blue line...which I believe represents the extents of the printable area.  However, it is at this blue line that I get the double line.  I have a feeling that this is so straightforward I'm missing it, but nevertheless, I am missing it.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63168#M31966</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-14T16:10:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63169#M31967</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Zobi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;it must be in layout, but the only border on the master is a blue line...which I believe represents the extents of the printable area.  However, it is at this blue line that I get the double line.  I have a feeling that this is so straightforward I'm missing it, but nevertheless, I am missing it.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

That blue line does not print. Maybe your printer driver is set to print the border around the printable area? Take a look at all the settings ...</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:36:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63169#M31967</guid>
      <dc:creator>Djordje</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-15T03:36:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63170#M31968</link>
      <description>BTW ...&lt;BR /&gt;
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How much training did you have, Zobi? Your questions are quite revealing ...</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:40:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63170#M31968</guid>
      <dc:creator>Djordje</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-15T03:40:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63171#M31969</link>
      <description>I recall reading somewhere that the blue line doesn't print, and you were right on the printer settings.  We had 2 solid, rapid-fire days of training.  We (my office) are all a bit mystified, but I'm generally the one who is posting the questions.  I recognize they are not particularly advanced questions...but I'm hoping to get there!&lt;BR /&gt;
Many thanks--</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:24:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63171#M31969</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-17T15:24:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63172#M31970</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Zobi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I recall reading somewhere that the blue line doesn't print, and you were right on the printer settings.  We had 2 solid, rapid-fire days of training.  We (my office) are all a bit mystified, but I'm generally the one who is posting the questions.  I recognize they are not particularly advanced questions...but I'm hoping to get there!&lt;BR /&gt;
Many thanks--&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

How was the training? Who did it? Do you feel like you could at least use the program? (even if you cannot set up templates/etc from scratch)&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I'm curious, since I often wonder about who does the Archicad training, and what people think of it. To me, that's the way to expand the product user base: solid training with strong follow-up so people can stand on their own quickly.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:43:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63172#M31970</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-17T15:43:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63173#M31971</link>
      <description>The training was good, but intense...and after about 4 hours of intense, nonstop ArchiCAD, my brain starts to just blitz out.  It was solid, and a good start, but I think I would have benefitted from 2 hours a day for 5 days, with several hours per day on our own to fiddle with it and come up with our own questions.  A little more follow up would have been helpful, but this forum is good, though I have to reveal my ignorance to a hugely wide audience, rather than just lay low and play it cool.  Not terribly concerned, as the responses are very, very helpful.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:56:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-17T15:56:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dopey border in plotmaker</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63174#M31972</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Zobi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;The training was good, but intense...and after about 4 hours of intense, nonstop ArchiCAD, my brain starts to just blitz out.  It was solid, and a good start, but I think I would have benefitted from 2 hours a day for 5 days, with several hours per day on our own to fiddle with it and come up with our own questions.  A little more follow up would have been helpful, but this forum is good, though I have to reveal my ignorance to a hugely wide audience, rather than just lay low and play it cool.  Not terribly concerned, as the responses are very, very helpful.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

It's interesting to hear you say that. My office recently took the approach of giving staff 8 hours to work on the "Learning Guide" that came with Archicad to get a basic familiarity with the program a week or so before they actually took the training program.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
It seemed to make a huge difference between the people who were originally trained who went into the class cold and those who went in with a minor amount of experience.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Don't worry about your questions. We were all beginners once. You should see the questions I was asking when I first joined....</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:01:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/dopey-border-in-plotmaker/m-p/63174#M31972</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-10-17T17:01:08Z</dc:date>
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