topic Re: Drag a copy bug in Modeling

Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:49:00 GMT

Hello,

We have found a bug in archicad 9 build 2219 regarding the ctrl shortcut key to enable or disable the drag a copy feature.

What we do is:

Start draging: ctrl+d
Zoom in: ctrl+/
Now the little plus symbol is displayed and we cannot turn it off by pressing ctrl untill we zoom in again.

Is there some way to disable the ctrl shortcut key. If we want to drag a copy we will do ctrl+shift+d.

Thanks,
Adam

Re: Drag a copy bug

Aussie John — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:53:22 GMT

Dont have that problem so maybe is PC specific.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Stephen Dolbee — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:18:18 GMT

I've had this problem as well. Try pressing control+D again.

Steve

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:51:37 GMT

I have encountered similar problems recently and have had to restart archicad to regain proper function. One time it was similar to the above description and another time the "drag a copy" action would not be initiated with the option or command option combination (on a Mac). I tested mirror and rotate and had the same problem. Closing Archicad and launching it again resolved the issue.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Link — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:48:36 GMT

This is a bug and no unfortunately you can't disable the ctrl feature.

Besides that it sounds like you are not using the most efficient method to zoom. I'd recommend investing in a scroll wheel mouse and zooming dynamically with the wheel. You won't believe how much faster it is to navigate around your project.

That mouse will pay for itself in gained productivity in just a couple of days!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:35:10 GMT

Link wrote:
That mouse will pay for itself in gained productivity in just a couple of days!

More like an hour or two.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:13:33 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Link wrote:
That mouse will pay for itself in gained productivity in just a couple of days!
More like an hour or two.

The scroll wheel "button" allowing you to pan will make you smile as well...

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:31:09 GMT

Glad to know its not just me, hopefully graphisoft can fix this in a hotfix...

I do agree that using the scroll wheel on the mouse is the easiest way to zoom, and we do have them, unfortunatly our drafters have just upgraded from version 7 where there is no scroll function. They are all accustomed to using the shortcut keys for zooming and why not, its actually quite qucik when you are used to doing it this way.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Link — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:12:59 GMT

They are all accustomed to using the shortcut keys for zooming and why not, its actually quite qucik when you are used to doing it this way

So is manual drafting. This is not the attitude to be taken if you want to maximize your productivity and get the most out of ArchiCAD. In fact I have a special long wooden stick for people who use ctrl+/ instead of scrolling. I use the same stick on people who use the sliders on the side of the screen.

You need to do everything you can to stop this practice mate!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:17:13 GMT

it wouldbe nice if we could get rid of the scroll bars on the side of the screen, they dont really work properly anyway and it would mean a few extra mm's of desktop space

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:26:04 GMT

adambutler wrote:
it wouldbe nice if we could get rid of the scroll bars on the side of the screen, they dont really work properly anyway and it would mean a few extra mm's of desktop space

Of course these were added due to popular request a few years back (something about consistency with word processors etc. I guess). I agree that they don't serve much purpose in navigating an unbounded (relatively) workspace.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:00:42 GMT

Link,

Stop hitting me!

I find that I move very fast and accurately with my thumb button programmed to ctrl+/ and the index/middle finger pair to previous zoom. The scroll wheel tends to be less accurate....

Re: Drag a copy bug

Chadwick — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:03:14 GMT

I personally become furious with any program that doesnt utilize the scroll wheel for all kinds of different combinations of commands. I am going to show my age here (LOL) but I remember being in high school drafting class when our mice switched to wheel mice and using *gasp* DATACAD 7 we could zoom and pan so much easier (The menu system in that program was abnormal to begin with anyway). I think a lot of programs have options to set up the sensitivity of the wheel for scrolling. Maybe its in the mouse software. Either way I cannot see using second hand or a series of right clicks to do things that are second nature like zooming.

Sorry, that kind of turned into thinking out loud ....

BTW, if the plural of mouse is mice shouldnt the plural of house be hice?

Re: Drag a copy bug

TomWaltz — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:08:39 GMT

Peter wrote:
Link,

Stop hitting me!

I find that I move very fast and accurately with my thumb button programmed to ctrl+/ and the index/middle finger pair to previous zoom. The scroll wheel tends to be less accurate....

How accurate do you need a "Zoom" command to be? I generally find "zoom in around here" is close enough... it's not like it gets dimensioned 😉

Re: Drag a copy bug

Link — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:12:58 GMT

Link,

Stop hitting me!

I find that I move very fast and accurately with my thumb button programmed to ctrl+/ and the index/middle finger pair to previous zoom. The scroll wheel tends to be less accurate....

There's an art to zooming with your scroll wheel that is blindingly obvious to most and completely unknown to some, so I will mention it anyway, just in case you fall into the latter category:

The most accurate way to zoom in (using the scroll wheel) is to hover your cursor over the exact point you want to zoom in to. If you scroll exactly over the desired target, you will zoom into it. By watching your cursor snap to a node first, you can be even more accurate. Okay it's not absolutely spot on, but it gets you close enough IMHO.

Once that technique is mastered, you can then use the same principle to zoom in and out of areas quickly, by being slightly off-target.

It's the same with pan (by pressing the scroll wheel). Hold it down where you want to pan from and let it go where you want to pan to.

As I said pretty obvious to most, but if you're still using ctrl+/ and zoom previous to zoom accurately, maybe thie above method will become easier with practice?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drag a copy bug

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:48:23 GMT

Link wrote:
As I said pretty obvious to most, but if you're still using ctrl+/ and zoom previous to zoom accurately, maybe thie above method will become easier with practice?

I use the scroll ball (Mighty Mouse) happily all day, but I do still find times when the explicit zoom command is better. The scroll is a bit jumpy and sometimes the zoom I want is in between the steps.