topic Re: sloped sided mesh in Modeling

sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 15:16:32 GMT

I want to use the mesh tool to create a window planter box with three sides sloping in at the bottom and a flat back. Is there a tutorial or instructions for creating sloped sides on a mesh?
Thanks,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:04:13 GMT

John,
Could you tell us why you want to make the window planter box
out of a mesh ?
AFAIK, mesh skirts are always vertical.
Is there a reason why making the window planter box
with slabs, walls, and roofs is not acceptable ?
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: sloped sided mesh

Aussie John — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:48:32 GMT

you could give the mesh a depth of zero. then you can make a sloping face. Trouble is then a verical face is not possible without SEO

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:00:45 GMT

Aussie wrote:
you could give the mesh a depth of zero. then you can make a sloping face. Trouble is then a verical face is not possible without SEO

John,
What is SEO?
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Aussie John — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:05:38 GMT

Sorry "solid element operation"

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:06:03 GMT

Peter wrote:
John,
Could you tell us why you want to make the window planter box
out of a mesh ?
AFAIK, mesh skirts are always vertical.
Is there a reason why making the window planter box
with slabs, walls, and roofs is not acceptable ?
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Peter,
I used formZ in architecture school. Using formZ I would be able to model the planter box pretty easily. Now I'm trying to get more comfortable with making unusual shapes in ArchiCAD. I am using the window planter box as a tool for learning how to work with meshes.
Is there a better ArchiCAD tool to make a planter box that has an open volume inside, sloped sides and molding at the top edge?
Thanks,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:09:16 GMT

John,
Solid Element Opertations seem tricky to me. I wanted to create an object that I could place in a variety of projects and still be editable. If I use the solid element operation I would need to take the operator elements with the object. It sounds unweldy to me.
Tell me more.
Thank you,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:15:17 GMT

Krikey

CheapnNasty™ Windo box:

zero slope roof slab with edges tilted back.

Never mind about the cutout for soil - just make the top plane of the roof dark.

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:52:02 GMT

"Dwight" wrote:

zero slope roof slab with edges tilted back.
quote]

Dwight,
What do you mean edges tilted back?
Thanks,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:11:58 GMT

one of those context menu thingies.

Re: sloped sided mesh

Stress Co_ — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:33:44 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Never mind about the cutout for soil - just make the top plane of the roof dark.

You added the cutout by? ....... selecting the roof and "subtracting out" the rectangle? Your example is open on the bottom? (a very effective drainage system).

Marc

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:17:29 GMT

hahaha.

CheapnNasty™ means you bring your own planter bottom.

Cut hole in roof with roof tool, not SEO, apply same angle to inner edges.

This is one of those stage tricks that uses ArchiCAD modeling best - where the guy makes three moves and voom! the thing is done.

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:32:08 GMT

Dwight,
Thanks for the tip. We didn't know about that control for roofs.
How are you getting the inside and outside faces parallel? Each time that I try this, the roof object has outside faces tilt out and the inside faces tilt in.
This object really is quite easy using formZ. I can cut moldings at the top edge, put drain holes in the bottom. Is there an after market parametric modeling tool for ArchiCAD?
Thank you,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:56:02 GMT

This is a basic tool that anyone looking at page 98 and experimenting can get

in this case, to get the boards parallel. the outer edge was 75 and the inner edge was 105

there's a relationship adding and subtracting from 90 degrees there - karl would know the math term? "normal?"

a situation like this needs "mechanics mind" to solve.

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:31:21 GMT

Dwight wrote:
a situation like this needs "mechanics mind" to solve.

Dwight,
That part about reading the manual and the "mechanics mind" helps to explain the problem. Do you know of an add-on for ArchiCAD that allows for parametric modeling (like modeling in formZ, 3D Studio, Rhino, etc.)?
Thanks,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:40:10 GMT

if you mean "freeform" modeling or "primitive" modeling, they all do it:

Silo
Modo
Amapi Pro
ArchiForma
Sketchup would do the planter with ease.

But if you look at some of ArchiCAD's primitive objects and that roof tool is versatile....

but none of them provide wave-arms-in-air-like-boossman simplicity.

Re: sloped sided mesh

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:56:29 GMT

Dwight,
I like SketchUp but I want something that creates editable objects from within ArchiCAD otherwise I would just model in formZ and import the object into ArchiCAD. Ideally the object would be visually editable in 2d and 3d without going into a dialog box to adjust the shape. I don't mind going into a dialog to adjust the appearance, layer, etc.
Fabrizio has offered such great support for his other tools that I'm going to try ArchiForma.
What can you tell me about the other software packages that you mentioned. Do they work from within ArchiCAD?
Thank you,
John

Re: sloped sided mesh

Dwight — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:21:43 GMT

Something like silo is completely freeform and comes through as 3DS. smooth. hundred bucks.

I feel that freeform stuff is impossible in ArchiCAD while simple primitives - like planter boxes - are easy if one bothers to [snotty tone] apply one's self to the existing tools.[end snotty tone]