topic Will Nemetschek kill Archicad? in Modeling

Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:48:24 GMT

Is there a future for Archicad; ( i know that there is similar post,but..)
As i seeing the 11 version ,i m wondering if the new Mother for archicad,want to kill her children.
I hope not, and i am praying to have in the future a REAL update version like version 7 was in the past

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

TomWaltz — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:56:40 GMT

AC11 was in production long before the buyout happened. I think AC12 and AC13 will be better indicators of what we should expect in the future.

Did the other post not discuss the concept in depth enough for you? Or did you just feel like a little fear-mongering today?

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:29:07 GMT

Funny that you mention AC7. Most people felt it was less an upgrade than 6.5 (6 of course was huge). I considered the Navigator and Publisher to be a big deal (naturally, since they were a result of my suggestion) but a lot of people didn't get it at the time.

But back to the topic...

Nemetschek has no interest in killing ArchiCAD. They did not invest only to destroy Graphisoft's primary asset. It remains to be seen if any effort is made to develop some synergy between AC, AP, VW & C4D, but they have shown a clear pattern in all their acquisitions of letting the products thrive independently.

As far as development strategy and new features goes...

AC11 was planned to address specific needs of a particular segment of the market which Graphisoft needs for growth. Some firms may not find the new features compelling (as many did not with AC7) but I think many will also be surprised just how useful and versatile the Trace & Reference feature is. While it may appeal especially to the 2D drafters among us, there are many advantages for design and modeling as well. The multi-story module feature is another big one as far as I am concerned - and another big distinction between AC and any other program out there.

From what little I know of the plans for 12 & 13 I think people will be very pleased with them (assuming GS does a good job of it).

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:20:12 GMT

From what little I know of the plans for 12 & 13 I think people will be very pleased with them (assuming GS does a good job of it).

how can you do that!!!!

i know all that but wont tell for 2 years..cmon man !!!

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:38:06 GMT

Rakela wrote:
From what little I know of the plans for 12 & 13 I think people will be very pleased with them (assuming GS does a good job of it).
how can you do that!!!!

i know all that but wont tell for 2 years..cmon man !!!

You know the line...

"If I tell you any more I will have to kill you..."

Especially about the custom homeland security rebuild Iraq module. Oops, now I've said too much.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:50:25 GMT

ok relax

i rather wait

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:25:46 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
AC11 was in production long before the buyout happened. I think AC12 and AC13 will be better indicators of what we should expect in the future.

Did the other post not discuss the concept in depth enough for you? Or did you just feel like a little fear-mongering today?

- my question is.... when you stated AC7 in the same paragraph with publisher, (being I am a new user since 8.1) did AC7 have publisher within the software and was it somewhat functional? I remember in AC8.1 & 9 we used plotmaker- Now that I have been in 10 for a while the (9) interface has become faint.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Aaron Bourgoin — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:29:47 GMT

AC 7 and its sister PlotMaker ??? both had a Publisher.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:38:10 GMT

I guess my question was directed to Mattew Lohden, but the interception is always appreciated. I was wondering if 7 had publisher and maybe close to the functionality of 10 why use the 3-plotmaker in the first place. I guess I am just doing some history research not that it is a big problem now being that I am in AC10 and very with publisher (w/ a few wishes) I just wonder why I spent time learing plotmaker instead of putting that time to publisher. (guess it was the person over my position who made that choice)

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:15:59 GMT

The road to Digital Cartooning of Drawing Sets commenced in 7, but really didn't start to be viable until version 8. Each release since version 7 (some might say 6.5) have made the need to establish a workflow for producing drawings ever more important.

Tinker to Evers to Chance...

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:09:19 GMT

Aaron wrote:
The road to Digital Cartooning of Drawing Sets commenced in 7, but really didn't start to be viable until version 8. Each release since version 7 (some might say 6.5) have made the need to establish a workflow for producing drawings ever more important.

Tinker to Evers to Chance...

I beg to differ. The Publisher (and Navigator) in AC7/PM3 worked just fine. It was in AC8 that they broke (for a while). The odd thing was that it was promoted mainly for its web publishing abilities despite the production automation being much more important. It was certainly a huge advance over the earlier Quick Views and Save Special > Hotlinks. Of course I am a bit prejudiced since it was my suggestion originally.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:41:24 GMT

Was there a Navigator in version 7?

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:22:52 GMT

Aaron wrote:
Was there a Navigator in version 7?

As I recall, but it's been a while now. It was my dream since version 5.0 so I could be imagining things. Perhaps it was just an enhanced Quick Views. I know there was some way to define the views to be saved as PMKs. (I would check but I don't have a machine I can open 7 on any more.)

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Djordje — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:58:08 GMT

Yes, there was a Navigator. Publishing was the big feature of 7.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:29:02 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Yes, there was a Navigator. Publishing was the big feature of 7.

Thanks Djordje. I figured it must have been. As I think about it Navigator had to be there for publishing to work.

Re: Will Nemetschek kill Archicad?

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:41:36 GMT

What was that you said Mr Chicken Little?
Will Microsoft kill Apple when they buy them out?
Oh, I think that may well happen on the same day that the sky falls down.