topic Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage? in Modeling

!Restored: Whatever happened to MEP package?

Richard Morrison — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:45:32 GMT

There was an announcement at the San Antonio Users Group last May that GS had an MEP package in beta, that was due to be released in the summer of 2007. Whatever happened to this?

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Djordje — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:48:57 GMT

Alive and well in Constructor ...

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Richard Morrison — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:52:06 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Alive and well in Constructor ...

Well, I remember Laura Yanoviak writing that AC11 users were going to be getting a free copy of this, as represented by GS. Harummppfff!

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Rakela Raul — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:46:26 GMT

It was also promised to be free for version 11 for discontinued users of 10.....till todays date nothing..... my first GS rip.....last week mxonform discontinued after 2 months of use...my second GS rip...
recommending GS is forget it now!

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Thomas Holm — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:51:51 GMT

Rakela wrote:
It was also promised to be free for version 11 for discontinued users of 10.....till todays date nothing..... my first GS rip.....last week mxonform discontinued after 2 months of use...my second GS rip...
recommending GS is forget it now!

This makes it all the more urgent that we get some hints about Nemetschek's longer-term plans!

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

TomWaltz — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:29:48 GMT

Rakela wrote:
It was also promised to be free for version 11 for discontinued users of 10.....till todays date nothing..... my first GS rip.....last week mxonform discontinued after 2 months of use...my second GS rip...
recommending GS is forget it now!

All I remember was YOU promising the MEP package. I don't ever remember any official press releases or announcements to the public about it from Graphisoft.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Thomas Holm — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:46:37 GMT

I think this is the original post. Perhaps Laura remembers what happened?
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=89133#89133

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Rakela Raul — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:44:54 GMT

It really doesnt matter who said it....'the type of weapon doesnt justify the killer'

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:38:38 GMT

Richard wrote:
There was an announcement at the San Antonio Users Group last May that GS had an MEP package in beta, that was due to be released in the summer of 2007. Whatever happened to this?

This is correct. As far as I know, no official press release or announcements were made, other than the one made at the San Antonio Users' Group meeting. The "promise" was inferred -- but the announcement did come from DG himself.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

TomWaltz — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:56:15 GMT

Rakela wrote:
It really doesnt matter who said it..'

That's how most propaganda works. People forget who said it or what the context was, just that they "heard it somewhere...."

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Bricklyne Clarence — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:37:55 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Rakela wrote:
It really doesnt matter who said it..'
That's how most propaganda works. People forget who said it or what the context was, just that they "heard it somewhere...."

.......I think the point is that Graphisoft DID make the announcement it at a more or less, "official" gathering of users(the San Antonio Users Group last year), so the issue of propaganda doesn't really arise in this case.

It's not the first time that they've announced or indicated something about the development of ArchiCAD only to not follow through on it;

.....even on these here forums.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Thomas Holm — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:06:34 GMT

Rakela wrote:
It really doesnt matter who said it....

I disagree. This statement from the CEO should be taken seriously.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:45:25 GMT

vico software / constructor module , i think you might recognize this software, our construction division will take a look at it: personally i think it is too expensive and im still trying to understand how this deal works..it is archicad but no really, it is vico software!! and as the moderator said: ductwork for archicad is there, looks like an improved version @ first glance.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Djordje — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:15:09 GMT

Laura wrote:
The "promise" was inferred -- but the announcement did come from DG himself.

Well ... him being the CEO of Graphisoft, it very much DOES matter who said it.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:33:42 GMT

mercy pleeeease

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Thomas Holm — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:11:50 GMT

Rakela wrote:
mercy pleeeease

Well, I'm not sure, maybe, what's it worth to you? Or could we have a poll on that?

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Steve Jepson — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:22:38 GMT

You can get the MEP Modeler library for free if you download the Constructor 2008 demo.

Like I said years ago and no one would agree with me.

ArchiCAD will never get to be what it could have been because of Constructor.

If ArchiCAD was all that it could be, there would be no need for Constructor.

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Anonymous — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:31:54 GMT

Steve wrote:
What was the MEP modeler anyway except some library parts?

You can have them for free if you download the Constructor 2008 demo.
There are several good library parts in it. Pipe fittings, etc....

Like I said years ago and no one would agree with me.

ArchiCAD will never get to be what it could have been because of Constructor.

If ArchiCAD was all that it could be, there would be no need for Constructor.

Sadly, Constructor is not made for Apple... Is there another way to get these library parts?

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:30:35 GMT

What was the MEP modeler anyway except some library parts

BIM !!!! !!!!!

if AC doesnt have a MEP+F package + the rest of Disciplines ...It cannot be qualified as a BIM software....simple !!

Re: Whatever happened to MEP packaage?

Dennis Lee — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:07:45 GMT

Since hearing about the rumor back before 11 was released about upcoming "free" MEP package, I keep waiting for a big announcement from GS about this new, free feature.

Are they working on tweaking the MEP library parts now since V12 is already released, or are they weighing what to do with it? Should we charge for it, should we release it w/ the next version, etc...?

I guess we'll have to wait...and wait...and wait...