topic Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut in Modeling

Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:16:30 GMT

Hi , I have a few importatnt questions bout Achicad. Can i rotate 3d object in Ac9 in 3 dimension like Autocad( command: 3d rotate)? and can we cut a wall in forms?

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2006 04:51:54 GMT

Only if the object has the appropriate 3D rotation parameters coded into it, not actually a 3D rotate command as such, and for your second question.....huh Can you elaborate please?

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2006 07:37:09 GMT

What do you mean by cutting a wall in forms ?

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Electric Flute — Tue, 09 May 2006 12:03:41 GMT

I don't understand why Graphisoft don´t already add in all objects the parameters ROTX and ROTY.
I know it's very easy to add this in the 3dscript, but rotate is something so important that it should be a standard parameter for all AC's objects.

Anyway, this would specially help newbies like the above question.

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2006 18:21:37 GMT

wait a little for A.C. 10 and you can rotate in 3 direction.

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2006 20:37:04 GMT

Electric wrote:
I don't understand why Graphisoft don´t already add in all objects the parameters ROTX and ROTY.
I know it's very easy to add this in the 3dscript, but rotate is something so important that it should be a standard parameter for all AC's objects.

When do you need a chair or a toilet or a kitchen cabinet rotated in 3D, and what is it going to look like in plan?

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Thomas Holm — Tue, 09 May 2006 22:12:42 GMT

s2art wrote:
When do you need a chair or a toilet or a kitchen cabinet rotated in 3D, and what is it going to look like in plan?

There was one - actually a whole bathroom tilted over - on the Bo 2001 exposition in Malmö, Sweden. Very evocative. Water was gushing out from every opening, tub, toilet, sink, all the time, constantly flooding the room, only stopped by a ditch in front from flooding the whole exposition. One of the best art installations I've seen!

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Electric Flute — Tue, 09 May 2006 23:16:05 GMT

Yes! Think about art!

sculptural stacking chair by Jon Crawford

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Wed, 10 May 2006 03:06:48 GMT

Ahhh, you'll be wanting the ArtyFartyCAD add-on then.

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Thomas Holm — Wed, 10 May 2006 06:50:19 GMT

s2art wrote:
Ahhh, you'll be wanting the ArtyFartyCAD add-on then.

More seriously, I guess this is a solution to this topic:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=9382

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Electric Flute — Wed, 10 May 2006 13:29:30 GMT

My wish in my first post is the ability to rotate anything in 3D (doesn't matter what) as a standard feature of ArchiCAD without programming.

Rotate in 3D is so basic and obvious that buying an add-on to do it is ridiculous for a U$ 4.200,00 CAD (Objective seems very good anyway). Fortunately AC 10 seems to go to this direction.

Though in some situations ArchiOpenMind add-on could be necessary.

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Thomas Holm — Wed, 10 May 2006 19:58:44 GMT

Well, I do agree, I have complained about this for several years, as I've come from Microstation where this is basic.

But after some years, i've understood that it's not that easy. The basic difference between Archicad's BIM/VB solution and Autocad's and Microstation's is that the two latter basically are graphics programs with "building intelligence" additions, while Archicad is a building object database with a graphical user interface. Basically this means that it depends on how the objects are programmed how easily they rotate in 3D.

I guess Objective solves this by enveloping the original objects with its own orientation code, which gives them the ability to rotate in 3D. My guess is also that this solution doesn't work for all kinds of objects, and that Graphisoft would have to invent a more general approach to fix it. I think they've finally understood the importance of this, though.

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Electric Flute — Wed, 10 May 2006 21:32:21 GMT

Thanks Thomas.
Oh well, Tea time...

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Wed, 10 May 2006 21:40:53 GMT

Electric wrote:
My wish in my first post is the ability to rotate anything in 3D (doesn't matter what) as a standard feature of ArchiCAD without programming.
...... (Objective seems very good anyway)........

Though in some situations ArchiOpenMind add-on could be necessary.

OBJECTIVE is the answer and more, I am using it and love it. New features coming up is even better.
Joseph

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2006 15:00:46 GMT

Thank you everybody,I get it .

Re: Rotate 3D and 3d cut

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2006 23:35:11 GMT

Electric wrote:
Though in some situations ArchiOpenMind add-on could be necessary.

Flutey,

You're absolutely right. There are a lot of objects that would be very handy rotated in 3D. Why not make it available for everything. You don't have to rotate your bath if you don't want the water to fall out. Just wondering what implications it would have on plan display, that's all. Please excuse my lack of lateral thinking. I never was very artistic, probably why I'm a technician, not an Architect.