topic Re: Composite Junction in Modeling

Composite Junction

Bruce — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:48:31 GMT

Any ideas how to get this displaying correctly?

Thanks in advance

Re: Composite Junction

Rod Jurich — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:06:33 GMT

Bruce wrote:
Any ideas how to get this displaying correctly?

Thanks in advance

Bruce can you send me a .mod file via private mail. Your reference lines do not meet which will prevent a clean intersection.

Re: Composite Junction

Bruce — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:54:40 GMT

No, that's a gridline.

The refence lines follow the outside of the building, which I can't see a way of lining up at this junction without causing problems elsewhere.

Here's another pic

Re: Composite Junction

Bruce — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:20:05 GMT

Tried private mail, but no attachments allowed.

Thanks for offering to have a look. Here is the mod file. The wall extending out to the right is an external buttress. The reference lines of the others form the perimeter of the building.

Re: Composite Junction

__archiben — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:45:14 GMT

one of those conditions where a "reverse composite" is required i'm afraid . . .

~/archiben

Re: Composite Junction

__archiben — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:49:01 GMT

the mod mod . . .

Re: Composite Junction

Bruce — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:01:19 GMT

A pain to be sure - but it works.

Cheers Archiben

Re: Composite Junction

__archiben — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:11:58 GMT

Bruce wrote:
A pain to be sure - but it works.

i tend to work to the principle that wall reference lines should run along the outside edge of the wall's core (i offset if i'm using an external lining that is a part of the composite) . . . this has always helped avoid most of the painful clean up issues, and with the new wall skin priorities you now have a far greater control over how an interior wall will clean up to this external reference line as well.

build your composites with the reference line at the top of the skin list, external to internal . . .

there are still occasions where you'll need to come around the wicket, but . . .

~/archiben

Re: Composite Junction

Rod Jurich — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:40:26 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Bruce wrote:
A pain to be sure - but it works.
i tend to work to the principle that wall reference lines should run along the outside edge of the wall's core/..........

build your composites with the reference line at the top of the skin list, external to internal . . .

there are still occasions where you'll need to come around the wicket, but . . .

~/archiben

Well done Ben, helps to be in the same time zone. Too often some hesitate to think outside of the square. ':idea:'

There is no specific rule, that I'm aware of, that says the reference line must be on the outer skin.

The way our cavity walls work here I've set my reference line to the inner face of our cavity walls. Therefore reference lines generally always meet and you have clean intersections where inner single skin walls meet multi skin walls.

Re: Composite Junction

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:48:14 GMT

Rod wrote:
The way our cavity walls work here I've set my reference line to the inner face of our cavity walls. Therefore reference lines generally always meet and you have clean intersections where inner single skin walls meet multi skin walls.

That's how I've done it for years. Either face of stud or face of finish depending on the practice.

Re: Composite Junction

Rod Jurich — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:58:44 GMT

Matthew wrote:
/.............
That's how I've done it for years. Either face of stud or face of finish depending on the practice.

It's gratifying to know I'm not alone. When I brought this up with a number of other locals all I got was odd looks, although 2 offices I've had some influence, see the obvious benefit.

By the way Matthew, how is/was "sunny" England?

Re: Composite Junction

PatriciaLe_o — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:34:15 GMT

Sorry to ask something that might be too basic for you, but it's still in this subject... How can I edit a slab ending, made with a composite material? I wanted a command like the "wall end" but used on slabs...

Re: Composite Junction

__archiben — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:52:07 GMT

PatriciaLeão wrote:
Sorry to ask something that might be too basic for you, but it's still in this subject... How can I edit a slab ending, made with a composite material? I wanted a command like the "wall end" but used on slabs...

you could try the slab accessory - if you're using AC10 go to your help menu and choose 'ArchiCAD 10 Goodies - download the 'accessories' add-on and 'accessories library'. in AC9 it's built in as a part of the installation.

additionally - if you want a more extensive slab edge treatment - try the cadimage accessory tools 'Foundation Builder' (shown below) . . .

HTH
~/archiben

Re: Composite Junction

PatriciaLe_o — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:50:20 GMT

Thank you Ben! I'll just download it right away!!!!!

Re: Composite Junction

PatriciaLe_o — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:53:03 GMT

Me again... I downloaded the goodie but it didn't seem to be helpful... How should I build, if I want the joints to look like this? Should I put one slab over the other!? And how about the exterior walls joining the slab? How can I make the insulation "cross" the slab?
Sorry if I was confusing....

Re: Composite Junction

PatriciaLe_o — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:39:47 GMT

this should have been the first image...