topic Re: Creating soffits in Modeling

Creating soffits

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:32:17 GMT

How do you create a soffit & fascia as a unified element. We have been using walls for the fascia and slabs for the soffit but they don't join like walls so we are getting additinal lines in either the elevations or the plan views.

Re: Creating soffits

TomWaltz — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:55:09 GMT

I'm using a profiled beam to make the soffit and fascia. I like the beam tool over the wall because you can slope it.

Re: Creating soffits

Steve Jepson — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:40:04 GMT

I use roofs for soffits sometimes.

I like being able to Ctrl click the edges for quick joints.

Re: Creating soffits

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:07:53 GMT

This is for interior soffit & fascias for commercial projects by the way. I amnot sure how you would use a roof for this. Also, I'm not familiar with the profiled beam. I opened the beam tool but I couldn't see how that could be sued to create and interior soffit & fascia. We are on Acad 9 so maybe this is not available to us.

Re: Creating soffits

Steve Jepson — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:21:24 GMT

I was thinking of soffited eaves. You can give it a slope of 0, or give it a pitch on the gable ends.

Do you not like to use the Profiler Tool for making soffit, facia, trim, all at one time?

Re: Creating soffits

Aussie John — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:04:25 GMT

Steve wrote:
I use roofs for soffits sometimes.

I like being able to Ctrl click the edges for quick joints.

Sounding like a broken CD but i agree roof for soffits but if they are sloping the 2d line position is incorrect if the roof has any thickness and the edge not vertical (eg at a mitre)

Re: Creating soffits

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:58:01 GMT

I confer with Tom. Complex profiles are the way to go unless you are only dealing with a single element. Using the slab or roof tool has its benefits in that elevations can be automatically tagged using the level dimension tool with gravity on. You might search either the archives or the manual for complex profiles to see how these work. Complex profiles were introduced in 10 and I find my self using them all the time. Fast to create and edit.

Re: Creating soffits

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:08:46 GMT

Steve wrote:
I use roofs for soffits sometimes.

I like being able to Ctrl click the edges for quick joints.

With profiled beams (and walls of course) you can use the intersect tool. Even easier than ctrl clicking roofs. (I assume you are talking about joining soffits at the corners of hipped roofs.)

Re: Creating soffits

TomWaltz — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:01:05 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Steve wrote:
I use roofs for soffits sometimes.

I like being able to Ctrl click the edges for quick joints.
With profiled beams (and walls of course) you can use the intersect tool. Even easier than ctrl clicking roofs. (I assume you are talking about joining soffits at the corners of hipped roofs.)

I thought he meant at peaks, like at gables

Re: Creating soffits

Steve Jepson — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:13:15 GMT

yes. I was talking about just a single element. The soffit. Not all of the other parts. Roofs clean up well with walls(fascia) Fit to Roof or SEO.

Like everything else, it depends on if you are modeling for a materials list, for Rendering model only, 2d results only in working drawings, ect...

That's why there is never only one way to skin the cat.

Re: Creating soffits

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:49:26 GMT

npacella wrote:
This is for interior soffit & fascias for commercial projects by the way. I amnot sure how you would use a roof for this. Also, I'm not familiar with the profiled beam. I opened the beam tool but I couldn't see how that could be sued to create and interior soffit & fascia. We are on Acad 9 so maybe this is not available to us.

Every one he is talking about INTERIOR soffits where we usually fit the HVAC & Mechanical elements. I use simple slabs for the flat bottom portion and walls for the vertical; to think of it Complex Wall Profile would work now that we can curve it (in AC11) but not the beam since no curving and no curved soffits.
Joseph

Re: Creating soffits

TomWaltz — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:39 GMT

Last I checked, a "fascia" was on the outside of the building. Am I wrong about that?

Re: Creating soffits

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:08:40 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Last I checked, a "fascia" was on the outside of the building. Am I wrong about that?

Correct but I am looking at his writing and intent.
Still think Complex walls will do a better job, any ideas?

Re: Creating soffits

Steve Jepson — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:32:53 GMT

this is from his web site. perhaps it is something like this he is talking about.

http://nmparch.com/