topic Re: Stupid Question re. Zones in Modeling

Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:56:08 GMT

I've not used zones before, but I have ranted about the pathetic AC manuals which are useless to me and my feeble mind for this. I used the auto recognition method to define the area. The label I defined shows on the plan. In the Zone Selection Settings no area calculations are shown. The Zone Stamp area of the dialogue box states "Not avail. in loaded libraries". I have the AC 8 library loaded. What the *bleep* am I missing??

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

David Larrew — Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:10:28 GMT

Which "Zone Stamp" are you using?

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:41:21 GMT

My subject title was indeed well chosen. The AC 8 library had not loaded. So now that I'm on track, what do you mean by "which stamp"?

Thanks for your reply.

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:05:51 GMT

You have to define the zone categories and the zone stamp associated with each category before trying anything with the zone.

Once the stamp is chosen by the category, you can tweak the details of the specific stamp previously chosen...

I hope it will be of more help than the manual

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:35:05 GMT

Got it...thanks. Another question: I've chosen Zone Identifier and selected to show the zone name. In the preview window of the dialogue box the stamp shows correctly. However, when I place a zone stamp, the zone category shows instead of the name. Is this a known bug or am I still unclear on the concept?

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

KenMcN — Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:10:11 GMT

when I place a zone stamp, the zone category shows instead of the name. Is this a known bug or am I still unclear on the concept?

You need to set the library part to not show the zone category (either before placing it or modify it afterwards). There's a checkbox in the library part you can toggle to change this.
HTH
Kenny

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 05:58:59 GMT

There is a checkbox to show the Zone Name, which I have checked and the preview shows correctly. However, when placed, the Zone Category shows and the Zone Name does not.

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

KenMcN — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:07:03 GMT

Dave, scroll further down in the library dialogue to see if the 'use category as name' is ticked?
Kenny

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:26:38 GMT

Right--it's not checked (See screen shot). I'll send another post with the resulting label in the AC plan drawing.

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Djordje — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:31:10 GMT

Dave wrote:
Right--it's not checked (See screen shot). I'll send another post with the resulting label in the AC plan drawing.

Can you send the screen shots as JPGs instead of PDFs? Quicker ...

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:31:40 GMT

Here's the plan view. Actually, I've found that if I choose any of my other categories, the label will show the zone name. Is there some special override with GROSS AREA?

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Dave Jochum — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:44:37 GMT

OK, sorry. The screen capture creates a pdf. I have to convert to jpeg in Photoshop and can resize then. Am I missing a quicker, more direct method? (Why is your original quote not showing here? I highlighted it before replying. Guess I'd better read up a bit on using this forum.)

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:03:07 GMT

Dave wrote:
(Why is your original quote not showing here? I highlighted it before replying.

Click "quote" in the top right corner of the other person's message. A reply form will open and their message will be quoted in it.

HTH

Kim

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

KenMcN — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:33:46 GMT

Dave wrote:
OK, sorry. The screen capture creates a pdf. I have to convert to jpeg in Photoshop and can resize then. Am I missing a quicker, more direct method?...

You can also open the pdf in Preview and export it as jpg. I use a contextual menu called QuickImage (freeware, from VersionTracker, AFAIK) which gives you a pop-up that converts formats and size of image etc. very quickly & easily (I'm using 10.2.8 at the moment, not sure about 10.3).

But back to the subject - sorry, I can't really think of any other simple solutions, not such a "Stupid Question" after all Perhaps it's due to the definition of the Zone Category Geoffroy mentioned a few posts ago?
Good luck. Kenny.
7.0 V3, Mac OS X.2.8, G3/400 Pbook, 320Mb RAM

Re: Stupid Question re. Zones

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:25:06 GMT

Dave wrote:
Here's the plan view. Actually, I've found that if I choose any of my other categories, the label will show the zone name. Is there some special override with GROSS AREA?

Yes - I seem to remember having that problem earlier this year. Gross area doesn't do room names, because it's assumed to contain overall zones, not specific ones.

That's what I concluded, anyway