topic Re: Missing object hotspot colour in Modeling

Missing object hotspot colour

Barry Kelly — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:27:18 GMT

Where in V8.1 (for windows - guess it's the same on a mac) can you set the colour of the hotspot for missing objects.
At present mine are clear as per attached.

In V7.0 the spot used to be red, so was easily seen.

Thanks,
Barry.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:55:14 GMT

Look in:

Options > Preferences > Miscellaneous

There is an option for selection dot color.

I don't know why this would have changed on you.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Barry Kelly — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 01:14:31 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Look in:

Options > Preferences > Miscellaneous

There is an option for selection dot color.

Tried that.
The selection hotspots are still black.
It's just the missing object hotspot that is missing along with the object
Barry.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 02:34:13 GMT

Oh, sorry, I don't know what I was thinking.

The big dot is displayed in the same pen as the library part. It looks like the pen matches the background. This seems like a strange coincidence so perhaps something else is going on. Maybe a video driver anomaly.

Have you tried selecting them and changing their pen?

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Barry Kelly — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:03:12 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Have you tried selecting them and changing their pen?

Interesting results.

The objects are set to "Use Symbol Colours" - which of course is exactly what we want.
If I turn this off the spot turns to the colour of the floor plan pen.
Turn it back on and it disappears again.

If I leave the "Use Symbol Colours" on and change the colour of the floor plan pen (should have no effect), the dot turns black (no matter what colour pen I choose).
Set it back to pen number 1 (red in our case) and the dot disappears again.

Curious thing is the default pen of the missing objects are all pen number 1.

Thought it might be an issue because I am bringing in a V7.0 plan into V8.1.
Just tried with a "New & Reset" with the default libraries and exactly the same thing happening.

V7.0 is working fine.

I'll try a driver update just in case this is the problem and will get back.
Barry.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Barry Kelly — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:33:33 GMT

Barry wrote:
I'll try a driver update just in case this is the problem and will get back.
Barry.

I have updated to the latest driver - I have an NVIDIA GeForce FX5600 (256MB RAM).
Also installed the latest R2 patch (the previous AUS version was pulled, that's why I wasn't using it) so now I am up to build 2284.

Still no change though.
Opening my plan after the new & reset (which had a white background) I got a glimpse of the missing parts having a green spot which is my plan background colour.

So it seems ArchiCAD is getting pen number 1 confused with the background pen.
Changing the colour of the background makes no difference either.

Is anyone else having this trouble?
To test, place an object and in the object properties set the floor plan pen to pen number 1 and make sure "Use Symbol Colour" is ticked.
Then un-load your library.
You should see a big dot where the object is/was.
If you can see it the problem must just be mine.
If not, you either have the same problem or it could be a minor but annoying bug.

If others could please test I would appreciate it.
Barry.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:23:58 GMT

Barry wrote:
The objects are set to "Use Symbol Colours" - which of course is exactly what we want.
If I turn this off the spot turns to the colour of the floor plan pen.
Turn it back on and it disappears again.

This actually makes some sense. With "Use Symbol Colours" selected for a missing library part, ArchiCAD apparently doesn't know what pen to use, but as I recall it usually reverts to the floor plan pen in this case.

Showing up in the background color is strange... UNLESS it is drawing the dot as an empty fill and you have drawing background fills set to the screen background color in your prefs. This is still strange though. I would expect the dot to use a solid fill.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Barry Kelly — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 02:45:32 GMT

Matthew wrote:
..... and you have drawing background fills set to the screen background color in your prefs. This is still strange though. I would expect the dot to use a solid fill.

Thought you might be on to a winner here Matthew.
But alas no.
I set the fill background colour to "Use Elements' Settings"
Still the missing objects have transparent spots.

I guess they aren't really transparent as they actually mask other entities (see attached).
So it must be using the actual background pen instead of pen 1.

It's not a huge problem - it just makes traking down the missing objects in the plan a little more difficult.

Thanks for all you suggestions.
Barry.

Re: Missing object hotspot colour

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:56:44 GMT

This is a known bug to GS and they are working on the fix.
Laszlo