topic Re: Slanted beam problem in Modeling

Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:35:39 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to slant a beam while maintaining its co-plainer relationship to the slanted/leaning columns.

every time I try to slant the beam, It will go out off plane.
I have attached some image to help explain what I am trying to achieve.

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:42:04 GMT

below is an image that shows how the beam goes out of plane when slanted

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:52:05 GMT

I am trying a few things but I still can't get a perfect result.

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:18:36 GMT

I am really struggling with this. I really hope someone can help me with this. I have posted another image that shows how my beams are out of plane.

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:14:24 GMT

kinda getting there. I have been messing around with a number of approaches. I think the 3D look good, but my section clearly shows that the diagonals are not on the same plane.

any suggestions or ideas how to work this out?
thanks
Habi

Re: Slanted beam problem

Djordje — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:28:51 GMT

Maybe a stupid question: did you try TrussMaker?

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:32:07 GMT

Hi Djordie,

I have tried strussmaker, but wasn't quite successful.
I am trying to build a diagonally braced frame for a high-rise structure. the frame is to be tapering and this tapper is what is causing the problem.

Project is in Kuwait, not too far from Dubai.
I will spend some time learning how to create my bracing members in GDL.

thanks for your suggestion
Habi

Re: Slanted beam problem

Ralph Wessel — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:06:04 GMT

habiatuq wrote:
Hi Djordie,
I have tried strussmaker, but wasn't quite successful.
I am trying to build a diagonally braced frame for a high-rise structure. the frame is to be tapering and this tapper is what is causing the problem.
I will spend some time learning how to create my bracing members in GDL.
Habi

Take a look at OBJECTiVE - it has been designed to make this kind of thing easy: http://www.encina.co.uk/objective.html

Some parts which will be of particular benefit to you:
- 3D rotation: http://www.encina.co.uk/obj_rotate_movie.html
- 3D working planes: http://www.encina.co.uk/obj_assemble_movie.html

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:23:41 GMT

Ralph thank your for the reference.
I have looked at the add-on and it sure looks promising.
Rotating and object in 3D and the workplanes are exactly what I need to build my frame.

thanks a lo
Habi

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:10:17 GMT

Ralph wrote:
Take a look at OBJECTiVE...

But... shouldn't ArchiCad have this working correctly? Somebody else pointed this out also not too long ago. It seems that the solutions these days is "look at this add-on" or some such thing. Not that it's neccessarily evil to use add-ons (I use them myself), but seems like we're talking about basic functionality here. Shouldn't the basics be implemented better given that we're on the second (or is it third) hotfix?

(and yes, for the record, I do have my own frustrations with AC). Oh, and BTW, I'm not blaming you Ralph, just venting.

Re: Slanted beam problem

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:07:14 GMT

Sergio I agree with everything you said about Add-on. in my case I truly believe that rotating an object in 3D along with other functionality the "Objective" add-on provides are bear necessities too any 3D modeling/editing workflow. I can't imagine why they are not supported by AC.

I am not against Add-on either, Like many of you out there, I use them also. However, I don't see why I need an add-on to perform such a fundamental 3D operation.

Serge, you are absolutely right, and Ralph thanks for the reference.

Re: Slanted beam problem

Thomas Holm — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:55:16 GMT

Rotating any item freely in 3D is a long-standing wish. For now, it will only work in Archicad out-of-the-box with GDL objects programmed to allow it, or if you tweak the script of such an object.

I have to remind myself often that the constraints in Archicad as-is is what makes the program fast. I used Triforma. I know. But it would be nice to have it anyway, as an option - you should be able to optionally un-lock the constraints for chosen items, I think. Objective is a way around this limitation..