topic Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC in Modeling

Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC ?

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:34:01 GMT

I mean a true reflected ceiling plan where it would appear like your were actually looking up at the modeled ceiling (instead of now where your RCP's in Archicad are actually looking down on the ceiling). Maybe this functionality already exists by tweaking the cut plane settings......any suggestions?

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

TomWaltz — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:37:38 GMT

It would be really nice, but no

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Rakela Raul — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:32:31 GMT

there r a couple of addons for that but we use a patterned slab...\
there is also a ceiling accessory in ac

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Bruce — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:14:04 GMT

My understanding was that this is the drafting convention. Do you mean that the entire plan, including building envelope, would be flipped?

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

TomWaltz — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:10:16 GMT

The plans would still read in the same orientation, but with the floor plan cutting plane seeing upward instead of downward, removing the weird display order issues on slabs that show a ceiling and allowing elements that are "dashed above" on the plan to read solid.

Some people even include roof overhangs and soffits on them.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Steve Jepson — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:17:10 GMT

Use your 3d cutting plane.

Save the view you want of the ceiling and place it into the Layout on top of the reflected ceiling plan.

Can work for making projected or reflected ceiling plans.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

TomWaltz — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:58:59 GMT

Steve wrote:
Use your 3d cutting plane.

Save the view you want of the ceiling and place it into the Layout on top of the reflected ceiling plan.

Can work for making projected or reflected ceiling plans.

... except 3D cutting plane does not affect the display order of slabs, does it?

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Steve Jepson — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:33:23 GMT

Everything you want to change about the display order of slabs can be done in the view you make in model space.

Make the 3d cutaway view you place over it show only the ceiling.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:13:37 GMT

The 3d cutting plan drawing over the reflected one is a nice idea, but how do you solve the problem of dashed contour walls of the floor above?
I usually redraw the complete floorplan with lines and sectioned fills for the structural plans. Is there a better solution? I wish ghost view could be saved and hotlinked with dashed lines...
Zoltán

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:06:49 GMT

You can make a view show anyway you want in model space. You can use a different cut plane individual views if needed. Then place that view on top the other drawings in Layout. This is how you can have a ghost story in layout. It may also be useful to use a different pen set for some of these drawings.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:09:30 GMT

Wall contours of the next floor above the actual one can not be set in any view dashed... it is only possible to modify the elements own settings, that's my major problem...
Neither in normal groundplan view, nor in cut-plane projected view - except if you use the special lines option in Special menu... but it has not been published and supported in AC10 yet, however it could be already used in AC9.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:18:34 GMT

sure they can. Just go the the floor above, make it look like you want, save the view and place in on top of your refelected ceiling plan in Layout. Besure you use the transparent background setting when you place the drawing in Layout.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:30:30 GMT

I understand your idea, but this way you can make only static drawings, which you won't refresh any more automatically. Instead, you have to change the wall contours line type to dashed, every time the building changes and resave the view, than change the line type back to solid...

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:34:40 GMT

I probalby do not understand what you want to do.

the drawings will all update either automatically or manually. You can set each drawing independently.

Re: Are there plans to incorporate Reflected Ceilings in AC

Link — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:04:15 GMT

Zoltán wrote:
Wall contours of the next floor above the actual one can not be set in any view dashed...

In AC10 you can set your walls above to 'Projected with Overhead'. In the story below, set your cut plane to show 2 sories above, or 1 story above with enough of an offset to cut into the base of the upper walls.

Cheers,
Link.