topic Re: No solid fills in section/elevation in Modeling

!Restored: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:38:12 GMT

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. No solid fills are showing in sections or elevations. They show in plans fine, and all other fills show correctly in sect/elev--just not solid ones and no matter what pen is chosen. Display options are set for all fills to display AS IN SETTINGS, fill background BY ELEMENT SETTINGS. I've been staring at these computer screens all day and I'm afraid I've lost my mind. What the heck am I overlooking?

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Rick Thompson — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:52:12 GMT

What is showing up in elevations.. any fills?

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:18:44 GMT

Rick wrote:
What is showing up in elevations.. any fills?

All other fills show correctly in sect/elev.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:23:09 GMT

I thought maybe I was just fatigued last night when this occurred, but this morning I'm stumped. I can't believe this is an AC glitch, as it would have been found by others. Anyone have any ideas? Kinda frustrating

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Rick Thompson — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:32:52 GMT

As far as I know, you never could unless the section/elevation is unlinked, then you can manipulate the fills as needed... or generate a 3D with parallel settings straight on. Is the screen shot what you are looking for? It was done with parallel settings and the internal engine.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:16:20 GMT

Rick wrote:
As far as I know, you never could unless the section/elevation is unlinked, then you can manipulate the fills as needed... or generate a 3D with parallel settings straight on. Is the screen shot what you are looking for? It was done with parallel settings and the internal engine.

First of all, all fills that are defined within objects' settings in plan are showing fine in elevation. The problem is occurring when I'm CREATING a fill in an elevation window. Any fill I create here shows correctly--EXCEPT solid fills. That's it.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:35:18 GMT

Dave wrote:
The problem is occurring when I'm CREATING a fill in an elevation window..

Hi Dave,

With the model view options that you indicated (background 'by element', fill 'as in settings' for all fill types), everything is fine for me...

Regards,
Karl

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:35:35 GMT

UPDATE (weird): I just discovered one elevation in which solid fills will display properly, but all the other elevations and sections will not. As far as I can tell, the settings for the one "working" elevation is identical to all the others--i.e., object settings, model view options, layer combos.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Thomas Holm — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:42:07 GMT

I've no problem here either. (I normally use solid fills to cover items I don't want to display).
The only issue i've seen is that when I create them, they usually end up behind the auto-updated content of the S/E. So I have to bring them forward to see them. Once that's done, they stay in front.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:51:58 GMT

Thomas wrote:
I've no problem here either. (I normally use solid fills to cover items I don't want to display).
The only issue i've seen is that when I create them, they usually end up behind the auto-updated content of the S/E. So I have to bring them forward to see them. Once that's done, they stay in front.

Right--my experience has been the same. This is just goofy. I still cannot find a single difference between the settings of my one working elevation and the others.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Rick Thompson — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:58:56 GMT

Can you generate a new elevation and paste the added work to it?

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:04:17 GMT

Rick wrote:
Can you generate a new elevation and paste the added work to it?

Nope--A fill created in the properly displaying elevation and pasted onto one of the "bad" elevations will display as empty.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Link — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:57:18 GMT

Dave wrote:
UPDATE (weird): I just discovered one elevation in which solid fills will display properly, but all the other elevations and sections will not. As far as I can tell, the settings for the one "working" elevation is identical to all the others--i.e., object settings, model view options, layer combos.

As a temporary test, did you try injecting the parameters from a good S/E into the dodgey one? If that still doesn't produce the results you're after, I'd say you have some kind of corruption and you'd need to recreate the elevation.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:31:30 GMT

Link wrote:
As a temporary test, did you try injecting the parameters from a good S/E into the dodgey one? If that still doesn't produce the results you're after, I'd say you have some kind of corruption and you'd need to recreate the elevation.

I did try injecting with no success. The elevations are un-linked and I am just cleaning up and adding 2D info. Again, to be clear, I have no trouble with fills that came into the elevation by way of object parameters. I am simply trying to create fills in an elevation drawing.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:05:21 GMT

Are you switching to that elevation via a view in Navigator, so that the 'good' elevation and 'bad' elevation might be using different pen tables?

Karl

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:21:56 GMT

Karl wrote:
Are you switching to that elevation via a view in Navigator, so that the 'good' elevation and 'bad' elevation might be using different pen tables?

Good thought, but no, pen sets are the same. I'm still baffled.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:41:00 GMT

I don't know if this post is related, but you are both working on a Mac -- could this be a bug?

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:54:23 GMT

Laura wrote:
I don't know if this post is related, but you are both working on a Mac -- could this be a bug?

Laura--Thanks for linking this. At this point, I think it must be a bug.

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:51:31 GMT

Problem solved: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=117384#117384

Re: No solid fills in section/elevation

Dave Jochum — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:51:32 GMT

I REALLY do not like the implementation of this tool, and I still think there is a bug--or two. I had to click on the button three times for the solid fills to show and there was no shading of the button to indicate position. It now does become shaded with every other click as it should.

The tool seems to be global while working in model/drawing mode, but view specific when in the layout book. That makes no sense to me--what would be the advantage to it applying globally--ever? While I was having the "problem", as I described, one elevation displayed with solid fills, while all the others did not--that appears to me to be a bug, though I believe it should be a feature of View Options.