topic Quick Layers Palette disappears in Modeling

Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:15:01 GMT

We have two computers in our office running ArchiCAD 9 (2018 USA FULL). From time to time the Quick Layers Palette disappears. The Quicklayers Palette cannot be invoked with our Keyboard Shortcut and it is not shown on the Restarting ArchiCAd Window/Palette Display menu. It is also not available under Options/Work Environment/Palette Schemes or anywhere else that it might normally show up in the Work Environment menus.

Because this is happening on two machines that are independent of each other we think it is a bug in this version of the software.

Please let us know if there is a solution or fix to the problem.
Thank you,
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

TomWaltz — Wed, 04 May 2005 20:49:20 GMT

Did you try a "New and Reset All" to see if it comes back? It could be some glitch within the Work Environment. (not accessible via the interface)

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Wed, 04 May 2005 23:06:18 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Did you try a "New and Reset All" to see if it comes back? It could be some glitch within the Work Environment. (not accessible via the interface)

Tom,
The restart ArchiCAD seems to work to get the Quick Layer Palette back in the game. We generally look at New and Reset as a last resort solution as we then need to reset our Work Environment, etc. We used to use the New and Reset when the v8 toolbar would just disapear and not be found.

We are wondering if anyone else is having this problem?
Thank you,
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Rob — Thu, 05 May 2005 00:08:49 GMT

I have had the very same problem a couple months ago and reported that as a bug to GS Aus.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Fri, 06 May 2005 04:19:15 GMT

I have the same problem on a regular basis. I have to manually turn it back on or re-apply working pref. set.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

__archiben — Fri, 06 May 2005 06:48:55 GMT

johncassel wrote:
... it is not shown on the Restarting ArchiCAd Window/Palette Display menu.

i often get this with the Library Loading Report window. it's 'remembered' state is different to that displayed in the Window menu.

regarding the quicklayers palette: i don't believe that is actually a part of the work environment profile - except maybe for its position on screen. could this be the trouble?

i've actually made the quicklayers a part of toolbar. i see no reason why you couldn't define a specific toolbar for this purpose (if there isn't already) and save that as a part of the WE profile? it's a workaround, but one which may suit you until a fix?

~/archiben

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Ben Odonnell — Fri, 06 May 2005 10:23:33 GMT

It seems that the last four items under, Window ---->Palette Display, can't be a part of the Palette Schemes in the Work Environment.

I have tried numerus times now but they just don't seem to be stored after a redefine of the WE. They can, however, have a short cut key assigned to them without ant problems.

One thing that is a little annoying though, is that every time you activate/deactivate on of the four that has a short cut assigned to it, the WE profile will say "Custom" all of the time.

johncassel wrote:
The restart ArchiCAD seems to work to get the Quick Layer Palette back in the game. We generally look at New and Reset as a last resort solution as we then need to reset our Work Environment, etc. We used to use the New and Reset when the v8 toolbar would just disapear and not be found.

John,
This simply should not be happening. If you have to redo your WE after a New & Reset, some thing else is wrong. Have you stored your profile? If you have your profile set as the default profile, after a New & Reset, it will be the WE that shows up after the New & Reset.

I suggest that you check to make sure that you have stored your WE correctly.

Cheers.
Ben

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Fri, 06 May 2005 18:28:06 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
johncassel wrote:
... it is not shown on the Restarting ArchiCAd Window/Palette Display menu.
i've actually made the quicklayers a part of toolbar. i see no reason why you couldn't define a specific toolbar for this purpose (if there isn't already) and save that as a part of the WE profile? it's a workaround, but one which may suit you until a fix?

~/archiben

Ben,
We do have a keyboard shortcut for the Quick Layers palette. Unfortunately, when the Quick Layers are gone the keyboard shortcut doesn't work. All references to Quick Layers seem to disappear.
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Fri, 06 May 2005 18:41:36 GMT

Ben wrote:

John,
This simply should not be happening. If you have to redo your WE after a New & Reset, some thing else is wrong. Have you stored your profile? If you have your profile set as the default profile, after a New & Reset, it will be the WE that shows up after the New & Reset.

Cheers.
Ben

Ben,
I haven't tried to use New and Reset in a couple of years. I am pleased to read that my Work Environment is preserved after New and Reset. Thanks for bringing me up to date.
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:54:58 GMT

Quicklayers still disapears every now and then on my computer. I restart ArchiCAD to get it to show back up but this is a time consuming hassel. How can we get the Graphisoft developers to work on fixing this problem?
Thank you,
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:16:49 GMT

I was told by Graphisoft that Quicklayers does not automatically re-appear with a new session of ArchiCAD because it is an add-in, albeit integrated into the ArchiCAD interface.
I think that this explains its behaviour

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

__archiben — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:39:41 GMT

MikeS wrote:
I was told by Graphisoft that Quicklayers does not automatically re-appear with a new session of ArchiCAD because it is an add-in, albeit integrated into the ArchiCAD interface.
I think that this explains its behaviour

the quicklayers palette isn't a fully fledged member of the WE yet - only its position gets remembered with the palette scheme, not whether or not it's visible.

what you can do is make yourself a dedicated quicklayers 'toolbar'. toolbars are fully fledged members of the WE and (at least on the mac) can be dragged around to act very much like a floating palette. they are slightly smaller but will act the way you want them to . . .

~/archiben

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Bruce — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:23:46 GMT

I have assigned a shortcut for the Quick Layers palette as I find it an invaluable tool whilst modelling. I have used the ALT+` (~) key and it works no problem.

I also have the latest patch for AC9, and sometimes QuickLayers decides it wants to stay, other times it gets lazy - but with the shortcut it's not a headache at all - it pops up right where I left it. It would be nice if I could dock it though.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

kevin b — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:18:26 GMT

So I put this here as it seems related although I'm on 10 now. I set the quick layers palette to show in my WE and it never saves. Whenever I startup AC10 the quick layers palette is gone and even when I apply my WE it is not there, I need to redefine the palette setup which works as long as I keep AC running but as soon as I shut down it resets.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

TomWaltz — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:32:55 GMT

I had that problem in AC9 as well.

I gave up and added a "Quick Layers" drop down button to my Toolbar.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:36:25 GMT

I am glad to see that I am not the only one who has been annoyed by this bug. If I feel motivated sometime I will make the toolbar as archiben has suggested. Anyway to transfer custom tool bars between work environments?

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:05:39 GMT

has anybody looked to see if this problem is fixed in version 10?
John

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

kevin b — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:39:08 GMT

It's not, that's why I posted, in fact I never had the problem in 9 but I do in 10.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Thomas Holm — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:57:45 GMT

kevin wrote:
.. I never had the problem in 9 but I do in 10.

Same here. The bug is reported and confirmed by GS.

Re: Quick Layers Palette disappears

Bruce — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:12:29 GMT

I'm not on 10 yet (soon, very soon) - but I would have that 'problem' in 9 - and my understanding was that it was a floating palette, therefore not subject to the same rules as docked palettes.

I 'fixed' the problem by assigning a hotkey to it (in my case Alt+`) and it would appear where I left it.