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    <title>topic Re: ArchiCAD 11 in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/79046#M40855</link>
    <description>Great post Karl.  Thanks for being such a fantastic forum resource.&lt;BR /&gt;
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In designing and executing an evolution of the tool such as version 11, GS has 2 bars to clear:&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;1) They have to provide enough perceived productivity enhancements such that users will be willing to take the bait and upgrade.&lt;BR /&gt;
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2)They have to push the software along so that its is positioned to compete effectively against whatever their competitors just released. Hopefully this will attract new users and grow the platform.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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The first one is easy.  If the developer can't make improvments that are compelling enough to attract their own user base, something is wrong.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The second one is a lot harder, at least in the current climate.  Revit is experiencing tremendous asendency. GS is in a race for it's life. The next few upgrades are not just technical exercises, they are make-or-break existential undertakings.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Before this release has even been delivered to users it has been branded a timid offering.  Whether that perception persists, only time will tell (GS has always been pretty weak when it comes communicating it's strengths).  &lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;B&gt;But a larger picture is emerging: It is becoming clear that to compete against Revit, GS needs to be changing the game and out-inovatings it's much stronger rival.&lt;/B&gt;  This release, for all the debate about the merits of this-feature-Vs-that-feature does not appear to rise to the level of &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;game-changing&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;.  Indeed, the fact that there is even a debate about whether the upgrade is worth the trouble is (depressingly) instructive in itself.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This is the thing that annoys me most about using ArchiCAD.  Regardless of the debates about how good this or that upgrade is, the truth is that ArchiCad, after all these revisions, has morphed into a very ugly, complicated, many-knived machine.  The interface is so uneven and so inconsistent, it becomes inescapable to conclude that there is no larger strategic vision. Features are appended ad nauseum but no one appears to be driving the train we are all riding.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The fact to remember is that innovation and great software design does not require the resources of a a behemoth like Autodesk.  Indeed, innovation often goes to those places when it wants to die. If all it took was money to create great software, Microsoft would have killed off Apple long ago.&lt;BR /&gt;
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GS needs to get back to making software that is beautiful to look at, easy to use and powerful to deploy.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:20:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Chazz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-23T15:20:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78943#M40752</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;ArchiCAD 11 will come soon (as much as I suspect..)&lt;BR /&gt;
What can AC 11 do better than AC10?&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:08:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78943#M40752</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T10:08:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78944#M40753</link>
      <description>Anyone who knows is bound by an non-disclosure agreement. You shouldn't get an answer here until GS publicly announces it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Link.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:16:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Link</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T11:16:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78945#M40754</link>
      <description>I'd it expect it to be October / November 2007. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Outside bet that it could be announced at Septembers archicad university , but I wouldnt bank on it!!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:32:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78945#M40754</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T11:32:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78946#M40755</link>
      <description>Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;BR /&gt;
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So far, there has not been any official statements about AC11 from Graphisoft.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:28:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78946#M40755</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T13:28:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78947#M40756</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78947#M40756</guid>
      <dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T17:49:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78948#M40757</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

assuming the Jones' ever catch up...</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:55:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78948#M40757</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T17:55:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78949#M40758</link>
      <description>If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:27:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78949#M40758</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T18:27:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78950#M40759</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

It's impossible.... because 10 is so good? Or because it's rare to have two great releases in a row?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:42:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78950#M40759</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T18:42:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78951#M40760</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

assuming the Jones' ever catch up...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Ha!  That's funny considering AC would be no where near a 12 month release cycle if it weren't for Revit's release cycle.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:05:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78951#M40760</guid>
      <dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T20:05:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78952#M40761</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10. &lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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It's impossible.... because 10 is so good? Or because it's rare to have two great releases in a row?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
AC 10 is quite enough as CAD. Normal (or special but not crazy) architects can do everything without problem with AC10. &lt;BR /&gt;
GS must consider to sell more AC10 (not to make AC 11) worldwide and bring more tips and show more possibilities with existing tools. &lt;BR /&gt;
Allplan or VW or Revit has no chance.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:18:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78952#M40761</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T20:18:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78953#M40762</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Ha!  That's funny considering AC would be no where near a 12 month release cycle if it weren't for Revit's release cycle.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

And Revit would be no where near where it is if it weren't for ArchiCAD... &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78953#M40762</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laura Yanoviak</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T23:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78954#M40763</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
 At least, it is nice to see such a lover of AC10  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78954#M40763</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78955#M40764</link>
      <description>Hey Scott, &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
An honest question, not trying to be sarcastic or stir things up, none of that even though it cold be taken that way, HONESTLY! After the last go-round about Nemetschek I am really hoping for a new level of maturity and productivity to emerge. That was flat embarrassing!.............Anyway, I digress, I am kind of confused about why you participate over here, in AC-land? Is it just to raise a little hell? Drum up sales for your guys by "dissing" our product, [from your signature it seems that would directly benefit you, and Lord knows we do a pretty good job of that all on our own  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; ], or, well, I mean, well, I just don't really get it. Why spend your time over here? I don't really care one way or the other, just plain curious after seeing your smilin' avatar and, shall we say, &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;competitive&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; comments over the past however long it's been.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:24:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78955#M40764</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:24:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78956#M40765</link>
      <description>May I ask when was AC10 window version released?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:56:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78956#M40765</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:56:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78957#M40766</link>
      <description>Scott. It is just Mouse hunt. More important from how often software is released is how much work have been done during certain time frame. I think AC looks better in that area. And one more thing. AC previous cycle as I remember was 18 months, so not that much different.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:15:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78957#M40766</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T12:15:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78958#M40767</link>
      <description>In the german ArchiCAD-Forum, Graphisoft is seeking for AC11-Beta-Tester:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimate ... 3;t=007397"&gt;http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:59:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T12:59:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78959#M40768</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;ray wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;May I ask when was AC10 window version released?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I think it was late May 2006</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:02:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78959#M40768</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:02:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78960#M40769</link>
      <description>Such short intervals between the releases trouble me! Is it really enough for a new version? If you have looked at AutoCAD during the recent years the have had 6 releases since the year 2000 and no major new tools!  &lt;BR /&gt;
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It is like the washing machines commercials: "Here is the NEW Ariel! Go buy it! It makes white even more whiter!"  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_mad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:07:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:07:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78961#M40770</link>
      <description>I agree with kliment, Autocad and Revit are both upgraded every 12 months, however there is not much to show for it, particularly autocad.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
GS who have had a policy of 18 month cyclical upgrades tend to pack more things in. I think id vote for 18 and more, rather than 12 and less!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:25:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:25:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78962#M40771</link>
      <description>To be honest there have been a lot of work done. Major changes just since 2002 (after version 7 not chronologically - just from the top of my head - correct me if I'm wrong)&lt;BR /&gt;
-real OpenGL in 3D (not some preview window)&lt;BR /&gt;
-functional right mouse button&lt;BR /&gt;
-Scroll zoom&lt;BR /&gt;
-Total Interface rework (personally for the best - still things to be done but much better that before)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Plotmaker Integration (with total rearrangement of menus - again personally I love the idea - bit a learning curve for the old AC users but totally worth it. Some changes, adjustments needed though)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Solid Element Operations - that was a hit but it needs improvements (like snapping to new points and edges, effects of operation visible in plan etc)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Custom profiles - again a hit that requires improvement (not usable in Curved walls, just one pair of stretching lines, lack of parameters, no profiles for Slab and roof edges&lt;BR /&gt;
-Favorites - I like it a lot - it could be improved (as always)&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Locking of favorites to the elements - changes to the favorite setup modify all the objects that have this favorite assigned&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Possibility to assign selected set of attributes per object (just geometry but not pens and layers for example.&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Using Favorites in indexes (Column schedule)&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Possibility to modify the Favorite directly from the Tool properties window&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Favorites with preview&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Favorites for Objects, Lamps, should have hierarchical structure so we could create customized libraries without library editing&lt;BR /&gt;
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That's it for now, but there is lot more.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:34:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:34:30Z</dc:date>
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